Cineform Wish List at DVinfo.net

Graham Kay · July 23rd, 2008, 06:44 AM

How about a wish list for features we would like to see in future versions of Cineform software? Maybe nothing that hasn't already been mentioned, but all together in one place might be a good focus.

Here are a few for starters:

> Realtime preview during capture - either in the Premiere capture window or in HDLink
> More realtime effects plugins - this is where packages like Matrox are really impressive
> Improved colour correction - the fiddly sliders don't do it for me, even if the results are impressive; Colorista is ace but not RT
> A clear solution to the colour shift during playback and scrubbing - much confusion here
> Tapeless recording - already under development, obviously!

David Taylor · July 23rd, 2008, 08:50 AM

Good thread - keep them coming. At some point we'll have to get user feedback about priorities once we have a list. Many on your list are also on our list, but we'll keep ours quiet for a time.

Robert Young · July 23rd, 2008, 06:11 PM

A cheap, easy solution to the HD full overlay monitoring issue, not graphic card dependant, would help a lot of users. I'm thinking something like BM Intensity HDMI out to HDTV monitor.
Ooops... I didn't see Graham's other thread. Being redundant here.

David Taylor · July 24th, 2008, 08:50 AM

There have been a few threads discussing Intensity as a monitoring solution. This will be done, and is on the short list. But we have to work around some annoying driver issues that BM has refused to fix so it has taken longer.

Graham Kay · July 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM

Just to expand on one of the items on my list for starters.

Comparing Cineform with Matrox is not really fair as they are two different kinds of enterprise, but I occasionally use an RT.X2 system at a place where I work and though there are many reasons why I dislike it, the array of realtime effects is very handy, making Premiere respond in the same kind of way that FCP does.

As mentioned, colour correction is a big issue for me (and surely others!) because I want to do it in practically every timeline I create. What I would like to see, in realtime, is a collection of color tools, including Levels, Curves, HSL and so on. Matrox handily group all these together with a three-way too. The two plugins that come with Aspect do work well in their own way, but the controls are time-consuming to use and obviously they are quite simplistic.

Another item then:
> For JVC HD110 users, is it possible to fix the audio sync problem that precludes capturing a whole tape as a single file?

Jon Shohet · July 24th, 2008, 07:01 PM

I know it's not exactly what was meant by this thread, but my wish is to see a basic version of aspect bundled as an integrated part of the next version of PP.
Premiere is currently the only major editing software without a built in intermediate codec solution, and some of us cannot afford purchasing cineform just yet.
Adobe has already done thing like this in the past, like with the MainConcept plugin forming the basis for AME, and Keylight and Color Finesse being bundled with the pro version of AE.

Adam Gold · July 24th, 2008, 07:29 PM

Version 1.5 of Premiere did just that -- I think the Cineform plug-in was what made the 1.5.1 update do HDV.

At least, that's how I learned about Cineform.

Gildo Houtekamer · July 25th, 2008, 11:38 AM

Date and time stamp on every scene when capturing with HD link :-)

Greetings!

Graham Kay · July 25th, 2008, 01:46 PM

Would there be further advantages to bundling the codec - eg, would Cineform get better support from Adobe in integrating code (if that's the way to put it)?

On the other hand, would it mean that updates would be less frequently available?

July 23rd, 2008, 06:44 AM	#1
Graham Kay New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 18	Cineform Wish List How about a wish list for features we would like to see in future versions of Cineform software? Maybe nothing that hasn't already been mentioned, but all together in one place might be a good focus. Here are a few for starters: > Realtime preview during capture - either in the Premiere capture window or in HDLink > More realtime effects plugins - this is where packages like Matrox are really impressive > Improved colour correction - the fiddly sliders don't do it for me, even if the results are impressive; Colorista is ace but not RT > A clear solution to the colour shift during playback and scrubbing - much confusion here > Tapeless recording - already under development, obviously!

July 23rd, 2008, 06:11 PM	#3
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	A cheap, easy solution to the HD full overlay monitoring issue, not graphic card dependant, would help a lot of users. I'm thinking something like BM Intensity HDMI out to HDTV monitor. Ooops... I didn't see Graham's other thread. Being redundant here. __________________ Bob

July 23rd, 2008, 08:50 AM	#2
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Good thread - keep them coming. At some point we'll have to get user feedback about priorities once we have a list. Many on your list are also on our list, but we'll keep ours quiet for a time.

July 24th, 2008, 08:50 AM	#4
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	There have been a few threads discussing Intensity as a monitoring solution. This will be done, and is on the short list. But we have to work around some annoying driver issues that BM has refused to fix so it has taken longer.

July 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM	#5
Graham Kay New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 18	Just to expand on one of the items on my list for starters. Comparing Cineform with Matrox is not really fair as they are two different kinds of enterprise, but I occasionally use an RT.X2 system at a place where I work and though there are many reasons why I dislike it, the array of realtime effects is very handy, making Premiere respond in the same kind of way that FCP does. As mentioned, colour correction is a big issue for me (and surely others!) because I want to do it in practically every timeline I create. What I would like to see, in realtime, is a collection of color tools, including Levels, Curves, HSL and so on. Matrox handily group all these together with a three-way too. The two plugins that come with Aspect do work well in their own way, but the controls are time-consuming to use and obviously they are quite simplistic. Another item then: > For JVC HD110 users, is it possible to fix the audio sync problem that precludes capturing a whole tape as a single file?

July 24th, 2008, 07:01 PM	#6
Jon Shohet Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 277	I know it's not exactly what was meant by this thread, but my wish is to see a basic version of aspect bundled as an integrated part of the next version of PP. Premiere is currently the only major editing software without a built in intermediate codec solution, and some of us cannot afford purchasing cineform just yet. Adobe has already done thing like this in the past, like with the MainConcept plugin forming the basis for AME, and Keylight and Color Finesse being bundled with the pro version of AE.

July 24th, 2008, 07:29 PM	#7
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Version 1.5 of Premiere did just that -- I think the Cineform plug-in was what made the 1.5.1 update do HDV. At least, that's how I learned about Cineform.

July 25th, 2008, 11:38 AM	#8
Gildo Houtekamer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wemeldinge, Netherlands Posts: 125	Date and time stamp on every scene when capturing with HD link :-) Greetings!

July 25th, 2008, 01:46 PM	#9
Graham Kay New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 18	Would there be further advantages to bundling the codec - eg, would Cineform get better support from Adobe in integrating code (if that's the way to put it)? On the other hand, would it mean that updates would be less frequently available?