Future : Flash Xdr / Nanoflash & Cineform at DVinfo.net

Herman Van Deventer · June 12th, 2008, 12:04 PM

David ,

Will HD Link be able to ingest / convert the Long Gop and I-Frame encoded MPEG files
delivered by Flash XDR ?

Given their stated bitrates 50/100/160 via HDSDI as an affordable portable medium, the
better bitrate MPEGS combined with the Cineform factor seems like an "Affordable"
Higher bitrate MPEG medium.

David Taylor · June 12th, 2008, 12:56 PM

Herman, I suspect the files should work. We haven't specifically looked at Flash XDR files, but if anybody has files and wants to shoot them our way we'll take a look. We often use www dot yousendit dot com to send files up to 100MB for free. The files can be sent to support at cineform dot com.

Herman Van Deventer · June 12th, 2008, 02:57 PM

Thanks David,

Will try to spot first flash xdr owners in order to obtain a sample clip.

Ray Bell · June 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM

David, Here are some files from the XDR

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=124130

I tried to convert with pull down but ended up with a green screen

Ray Bell · June 30th, 2008, 01:57 PM

bumping to the top... any idea on supporting the XDR footage ??

David Newman · June 30th, 2008, 03:51 PM

MOV MPEG will not work. Is there an option not to record a stand MPEG file, i.e to an MOV format. Something like MPG or M2T should work.

Ray Bell · June 30th, 2008, 07:49 PM

Not sure, could you ask Mike Schell (convergent designs)

here is a thread that you can get his email from...

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=124811

David Taylor · July 1st, 2008, 08:35 AM

We've launched the request to Mike for some files....

Herman Van Deventer · July 13th, 2008, 12:04 PM

Any news on testing a flash XDR file via Cineform ?

David Taylor · July 13th, 2008, 01:34 PM

Mike didn't reply. I've resent the request to him for some files to test.

George Kroonder · July 13th, 2008, 04:28 PM

I believe they're still finishing the software/firmware. I'd say there's little use testing with pre-release files to "certify" a workflow.

Give 'm some time to get to release; should be a week or two from what I gather.

I'm sure files will be made available then.

George/

Herman Van Deventer · July 16th, 2008, 09:48 AM

DV Info member David Schmerin has managed to get his hands on a 50 Mbs 4-2-2 MXF CLIP.

thread / FLASH XDR / http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=125503

Hopefully the Cineform Team could help with a prelim. Cineform Test in this regard ?

George Kroonder · July 16th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Didn't want to beat a dead horse in that thread, but it is actually a PDW-700 .mxf there.

Although the XDR uses the same codec it is used it at different encode settings and CD creates their own MXF files, which I'm sure are made to be as compatible as possible.

However, we won't know until they are ready. Makes no sense to me to try and "will" things into existence. Give it some time.

George/

June 12th, 2008, 12:04 PM	#1
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	Future : Flash Xdr / Nanoflash & Cineform David , Will HD Link be able to ingest / convert the Long Gop and I-Frame encoded MPEG files delivered by Flash XDR ? Given their stated bitrates 50/100/160 via HDSDI as an affordable portable medium, the better bitrate MPEGS combined with the Cineform factor seems like an "Affordable" Higher bitrate MPEG medium.

June 30th, 2008, 03:51 PM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	MOV MPEG will not work. Is there an option not to record a stand MPEG file, i.e to an MOV format. Something like MPG or M2T should work. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 12th, 2008, 12:56 PM	#2
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Herman, I suspect the files should work. We haven't specifically looked at Flash XDR files, but if anybody has files and wants to shoot them our way we'll take a look. We often use www dot yousendit dot com to send files up to 100MB for free. The files can be sent to support at cineform dot com.

June 12th, 2008, 02:57 PM	#3
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	Thanks David, Will try to spot first flash xdr owners in order to obtain a sample clip.

June 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM	#4
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	David, Here are some files from the XDR http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=124130 I tried to convert with pull down but ended up with a green screen

June 30th, 2008, 01:57 PM	#5
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	bumping to the top... any idea on supporting the XDR footage ??

June 30th, 2008, 07:49 PM	#7
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Not sure, could you ask Mike Schell (convergent designs) here is a thread that you can get his email from... http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=124811

July 1st, 2008, 08:35 AM	#8
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	We've launched the request to Mike for some files....

July 13th, 2008, 12:04 PM	#9
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	Any news on testing a flash XDR file via Cineform ?

July 13th, 2008, 01:34 PM	#10
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Mike didn't reply. I've resent the request to him for some files to test.

July 13th, 2008, 04:28 PM	#11
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	I believe they're still finishing the software/firmware. I'd say there's little use testing with pre-release files to "certify" a workflow. Give 'm some time to get to release; should be a week or two from what I gather. I'm sure files will be made available then. George/

July 16th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#12
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	DV Info member David Schmerin has managed to get his hands on a 50 Mbs 4-2-2 MXF CLIP. thread / FLASH XDR / http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=125503 Hopefully the Cineform Team could help with a prelim. Cineform Test in this regard ?

July 16th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#13
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	Didn't want to beat a dead horse in that thread, but it is actually a PDW-700 .mxf there. Although the XDR uses the same codec it is used it at different encode settings and CD creates their own MXF files, which I'm sure are made to be as compatible as possible. However, we won't know until they are ready. Makes no sense to me to try and "will" things into existence. Give it some time. George/