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Hugh Mobley · May 17th, 2008, 05:33 PM

I thought Neo HD and Neo 4K was supposed to work with Vegas 8, I just tried Neo 4K as a demo, converted some m2t clips and as soon as I opened the folder to bring them into Vegas, Vegas crashed, over and over again until I uninstalled back to Neo HDV, now no problem. So If I wanted to upgrade to Neo HD or 4K am I out of luck?

John McGinley · May 17th, 2008, 10:09 PM

Does Vegas do 4k? I only have version 7 and it doesnt do it in that version.

It may be an issue with Vegas.

EDIT:

I looked online and that appears to be the case.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/workflow

Vegas Pro 8 software supports HD editing and rendering, including output to 1080/60i, 1080/30p, 1080/24p, 720/60p, 720/30p, and 720/24p. Work with project sizes up to 2048x2048.

David Newman · May 18th, 2008, 08:18 AM

NEO 4K is compatible with Vegas, while Vegas is limited to 2K exports, it will take bigger than 2K source files.

Hugh, something else must have happened as we have no other reports. Was this with the beta version 3.3.1?

Hugh Mobley · May 18th, 2008, 01:40 PM

No, just the version for download off the site, but when I shut everything down and rebooted I managed to bring just one clip onto the vegas timeline, but then it gave me the problem error and vegas shut down, the clips are m2t so the size should not be an issue, they are clips I captured with neo hdv along with avi. so I tried those clips to see if I could see a difference. btw the clips show the same codec as neo hdv when I look at properties, I thought since 4K is different I would see something different than the NEO HDV, I don't see anything different at all, same exact screen as neo hdv. is this correct?

David Newman · May 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Confused by your question. M2Ts are crashing Vegas? NEO 4K will look much the same for GUI elements, but under the hood it supports 4K+ at 12-bits per channel 4:4:4:4.

Hugh Mobley · May 18th, 2008, 06:28 PM

I used 4K to convert m2t clips that I had in a folder, which I used Neo Hdv to capture into avi keeping the m2t. I converted the m2t clips with 4K and put them into another folder by themselves, converting went fine, when I opened the folder from Vegas to bring these new avi clips in vegas crashed everytime, I tried over and over, rebooted, managed to bring one clip in and vegas crashed, gave up uninstalled 4k and went back to neo hdv. question is obvious, am I unable to upgrade to HD or 4K, seems like I am if Vegas crashes like that. Nep Hdv crashes vegas for me if I try to use mov. clips instead of avi. I would rather use mov clips but can't because it crashes vegas every time. so there is another issue, but I have been working around that. now I just thought of one thing should I have uninstalled and reinstalled vegas without cineform and then installed 4K. could that have done it

Hugh Mobley · July 6th, 2008, 11:55 AM

could this problem of 4K not working because of the video card?

David Newman · July 6th, 2008, 12:25 PM

NEO 4K works fine with Vegas. Under Vegas we are just a cdeoc, so graphic card no not impact us. Sometimes is just not correct on your system and you need to file a ticket with support.

May 17th, 2008, 05:33 PM	#1
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	Neo 4K I thought Neo HD and Neo 4K was supposed to work with Vegas 8, I just tried Neo 4K as a demo, converted some m2t clips and as soon as I opened the folder to bring them into Vegas, Vegas crashed, over and over again until I uninstalled back to Neo HDV, now no problem. So If I wanted to upgrade to Neo HD or 4K am I out of luck? __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

May 17th, 2008, 10:09 PM	#2
John McGinley Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 142	Does Vegas do 4k? I only have version 7 and it doesnt do it in that version. It may be an issue with Vegas. EDIT: I looked online and that appears to be the case. http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/workflow Vegas Pro 8 software supports HD editing and rendering, including output to 1080/60i, 1080/30p, 1080/24p, 720/60p, 720/30p, and 720/24p. Work with project sizes up to 2048x2048. Last edited by John McGinley; May 17th, 2008 at 11:03 PM.

May 18th, 2008, 08:18 AM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	NEO 4K is compatible with Vegas, while Vegas is limited to 2K exports, it will take bigger than 2K source files. Hugh, something else must have happened as we have no other reports. Was this with the beta version 3.3.1? __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 18th, 2008, 01:40 PM	#4
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	No, just the version for download off the site, but when I shut everything down and rebooted I managed to bring just one clip onto the vegas timeline, but then it gave me the problem error and vegas shut down, the clips are m2t so the size should not be an issue, they are clips I captured with neo hdv along with avi. so I tried those clips to see if I could see a difference. btw the clips show the same codec as neo hdv when I look at properties, I thought since 4K is different I would see something different than the NEO HDV, I don't see anything different at all, same exact screen as neo hdv. is this correct? __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

May 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Confused by your question. M2Ts are crashing Vegas? NEO 4K will look much the same for GUI elements, but under the hood it supports 4K+ at 12-bits per channel 4:4:4:4. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 18th, 2008, 06:28 PM	#6
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	I used 4K to convert m2t clips that I had in a folder, which I used Neo Hdv to capture into avi keeping the m2t. I converted the m2t clips with 4K and put them into another folder by themselves, converting went fine, when I opened the folder from Vegas to bring these new avi clips in vegas crashed everytime, I tried over and over, rebooted, managed to bring one clip in and vegas crashed, gave up uninstalled 4k and went back to neo hdv. question is obvious, am I unable to upgrade to HD or 4K, seems like I am if Vegas crashes like that. Nep Hdv crashes vegas for me if I try to use mov. clips instead of avi. I would rather use mov clips but can't because it crashes vegas every time. so there is another issue, but I have been working around that. now I just thought of one thing should I have uninstalled and reinstalled vegas without cineform and then installed 4K. could that have done it __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

July 6th, 2008, 11:55 AM	#7
Hugh Mobley Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Placentia, Calif Posts: 549	could this problem of 4K not working because of the video card? __________________ Hugh Mobley www.petplanetvideos.com http://exposureroom.com/members/hmobley.aspx/

July 6th, 2008, 12:25 PM	#8
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	NEO 4K works fine with Vegas. Under Vegas we are just a cdeoc, so graphic card no not impact us. Sometimes is just not correct on your system and you need to file a ticket with support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman