Monitor Output Overlay Not Working at DVinfo.net

Brent Graham · April 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM

I've got two video cards installed in my Quad Core WinXP computer, the first is an Nvidia 7600 gtx (or something, 512mb) and an Nvidia Geforce 5400 (or 5200).

The big one runs two 21" LCDs and works fine. The little one runs S-Video out only to a JVC Broadcast Monitor.

I have the 3rd monitor the JVC set up for Video Overlay in windows and it displays fullscreen video perfectly while in a Premiere SD-DV project. So I know everything is set up correctly.

But it won't output to the monitor when I'm running in a Cineform HD project. I assumed it would automatically downconvert (scale) the image along with the pull-down 2:3:3:2 setting in the Cineform Playback settings window.

Anyone have any ideas or advice on what to change/check?

The last thing I want to hear is that I need an HD monitor to actually output Cineform timelines! Who can afford a professional HD Broadcast monitor?!

Thanks

Brent Graham · May 4th, 2008, 12:25 PM

Out of 106 people, nobody knows?

Damn.

Graham Hickling · May 4th, 2008, 07:24 PM

If the issue is the SD-only resolution of the S-video port that you are using at the moment, then replace the 5400 with a sub-$100 6600GS or similar that has an HD-out port and cables (red/green/blue) in addition to S-Video.

You would then need a monitor or LCDTV or whatever with component inputs, but whether it has to be broadcast quality is up to you.

Mike McCarthy · May 5th, 2008, 12:09 PM

Monitoring is a complex issue with Cineform. The basic options are Overlay with ATI or old Nvidia drivers, or use a XenaLH card. Lots of info on thhis in older posts.

Brent Graham · May 9th, 2008, 02:16 PM

But it's an SD broadcast monitor. So the computer hardware MUST be downsizing somewhere, and my guess is that it happens before the S-video cable, so why would that matter?

My video card is able to overlay SD footage. But can't overlay a cineform HD track, so is cineform not downrezzing properly?

William Middleton · May 10th, 2008, 12:45 PM

I have experienced a similar problem--I have a quad core winXP w/ a quadro FX 1500 video card (and Aspect HD). The card goes to two monitors--one HD monitor for full screen video playout, and the other to a vga monitor. This may sound dumb (and you may have already tried it) but make sure you have the latest drivers installed for your card. Prior to updating the drivers, I experienced hard crashes--right after a few seconds of playing video. Updated the drivers and that fixed that.

However, I still have a playback issue and only when I am in a Cineform project; I can play video but there is a huge glitch at the beginning; then when I hit stop, the full screen video screen returns to an image of my desktop. The video in the timeline never permanently stays on the full-screen video monitor. Not so when I am in a non-Cineform project.

I said all of that to say this: Cineform has acknowledged that this is an issue and they are working on it. This may or may not have a bearing on your problem, but it sounded similar enough that I thought I would post it.

Brent Graham · May 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM

thank you.

April 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM	#1
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	Monitor Output Overlay Not Working I've got two video cards installed in my Quad Core WinXP computer, the first is an Nvidia 7600 gtx (or something, 512mb) and an Nvidia Geforce 5400 (or 5200). The big one runs two 21" LCDs and works fine. The little one runs S-Video out only to a JVC Broadcast Monitor. I have the 3rd monitor the JVC set up for Video Overlay in windows and it displays fullscreen video perfectly while in a Premiere SD-DV project. So I know everything is set up correctly. But it won't output to the monitor when I'm running in a Cineform HD project. I assumed it would automatically downconvert (scale) the image along with the pull-down 2:3:3:2 setting in the Cineform Playback settings window. Anyone have any ideas or advice on what to change/check? The last thing I want to hear is that I need an HD monitor to actually output Cineform timelines! Who can afford a professional HD Broadcast monitor?! Thanks

May 5th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#4
Mike McCarthy Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 517	Monitoring is a complex issue with Cineform. The basic options are Overlay with ATI or old Nvidia drivers, or use a XenaLH card. Lots of info on thhis in older posts. __________________ For more information on these topics, check out my tech website at www.hd4pc.com

May 4th, 2008, 12:25 PM	#2
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	Out of 106 people, nobody knows? Damn.

May 4th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#3
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	If the issue is the SD-only resolution of the S-video port that you are using at the moment, then replace the 5400 with a sub-$100 6600GS or similar that has an HD-out port and cables (red/green/blue) in addition to S-Video. You would then need a monitor or LCDTV or whatever with component inputs, but whether it has to be broadcast quality is up to you.

May 9th, 2008, 02:16 PM	#5
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	But it's an SD broadcast monitor. So the computer hardware MUST be downsizing somewhere, and my guess is that it happens before the S-video cable, so why would that matter? My video card is able to overlay SD footage. But can't overlay a cineform HD track, so is cineform not downrezzing properly?

May 10th, 2008, 12:45 PM	#6
William Middleton Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Antioch, TN Posts: 67	I have experienced a similar problem--I have a quad core winXP w/ a quadro FX 1500 video card (and Aspect HD). The card goes to two monitors--one HD monitor for full screen video playout, and the other to a vga monitor. This may sound dumb (and you may have already tried it) but make sure you have the latest drivers installed for your card. Prior to updating the drivers, I experienced hard crashes--right after a few seconds of playing video. Updated the drivers and that fixed that. However, I still have a playback issue and only when I am in a Cineform project; I can play video but there is a huge glitch at the beginning; then when I hit stop, the full screen video screen returns to an image of my desktop. The video in the timeline never permanently stays on the full-screen video monitor. Not so when I am in a non-Cineform project. I said all of that to say this: Cineform has acknowledged that this is an issue and they are working on it. This may or may not have a bearing on your problem, but it sounded similar enough that I thought I would post it.

May 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM	#7
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	thank you.