Best workflow from Cineform to Encore DVD at DVinfo.net

Deniz Ahmet · March 19th, 2008, 04:34 PM

What generally gives the best quality finsihed product going from ProspectHD to a DVD encoding in Encore? which settings do people use....

thanks

Michael Stewart · March 19th, 2008, 10:05 PM

Just export the file as a 720x480 CFHD and bring it directly into Encore.

Works great.

Mike

Robert Young · March 20th, 2008, 03:09 PM

I agree with Michael. I have tried quite a few workflows to get from CFHD 1080i to DVD. My distinct impression is that Cineform Export does the best job of downsizing and reversing field order for CFHD 1080i to CFDV 480i or 480p. I have also found that I get better looking DVD images using a third party encoder (I like Procoder) for the transcode, rather than the Adobe Main Concept encoder.

Stephen Armour · March 20th, 2008, 04:06 PM

TMPGnc does a great job too and is very fast for renders.

Output the big AVI's if you save them as "master's", then into TMPGnc. It's very fast with square pixel downscales of CF'd material and the mpg's look very nice indeed. Same is true with going to flv from CF.

Ray Bell · March 21st, 2008, 08:43 AM

This might help also...

http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/s...asp?deptID=614

Look under Timeline export and media creation, then How do I create DVD

Adam Gold · March 21st, 2008, 02:37 PM

I use sort of a modified version of what's on that page with great results. Even with my new zoomy PC (detailed in other threads around here) I'm having stability issues with Premiere. It seems to me that there are three distinct stages your project goes through before burning: rendering, transcoding and downscaling. While you can do all three in one step if you wish, I find Premiere works better and more reliably, with great quality, if you break it into three steps and don't really involve Adobe in the process at all.

I don't use Encore much; I prefer Nero because it's simpler and easier to use, for me. I know that's probably laughably amateurish, but I get great, near HDV results on standard DVD.

So here's what I do:

Render Premiere timeline to Cineform CFHD-AVI, "recompress" box UNchecked
Transcode CFHD-AVI in Premiere to Cineform m2t, "recompress" box UNchecked
Import m2t into Nero and downscale, burn

Note that Nero can't handle the CFHD-AVI directly; no matter how you set it, it wants to squeeze your 16:9 into anamorphic 4:3 with pillar boxes, hence the second step above. It works fine with Cineform m2t.

This workflow is great with Nero 7; I tried it with 8 and it wouldn't burn, but I think I may have screwed up the install or something. I'll try again and post results if different.

It takes a little more time breaking it into three steps but I get fewer crashes and better results.

March 19th, 2008, 04:34 PM	#1
Deniz Ahmet Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LONDON Posts: 178	Best workflow from Cineform to Encore DVD What generally gives the best quality finsihed product going from ProspectHD to a DVD encoding in Encore? which settings do people use.... thanks

March 20th, 2008, 04:06 PM	#4
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	TMPGnc does a great job too and is very fast for renders. Output the big AVI's if you save them as "master's", then into TMPGnc. It's very fast with square pixel downscales of CF'd material and the mpg's look very nice indeed. Same is true with going to flv from CF. __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

March 19th, 2008, 10:05 PM	#2
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	Just export the file as a 720x480 CFHD and bring it directly into Encore. Works great. Mike

March 20th, 2008, 03:09 PM	#3
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	I agree with Michael. I have tried quite a few workflows to get from CFHD 1080i to DVD. My distinct impression is that Cineform Export does the best job of downsizing and reversing field order for CFHD 1080i to CFDV 480i or 480p. I have also found that I get better looking DVD images using a third party encoder (I like Procoder) for the transcode, rather than the Adobe Main Concept encoder.

March 21st, 2008, 08:43 AM	#5
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	This might help also... http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/s...asp?deptID=614 Look under Timeline export and media creation, then How do I create DVD

March 21st, 2008, 02:37 PM	#6
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I use sort of a modified version of what's on that page with great results. Even with my new zoomy PC (detailed in other threads around here) I'm having stability issues with Premiere. It seems to me that there are three distinct stages your project goes through before burning: rendering, transcoding and downscaling. While you can do all three in one step if you wish, I find Premiere works better and more reliably, with great quality, if you break it into three steps and don't really involve Adobe in the process at all. I don't use Encore much; I prefer Nero because it's simpler and easier to use, for me. I know that's probably laughably amateurish, but I get great, near HDV results on standard DVD. So here's what I do: Render Premiere timeline to Cineform CFHD-AVI, "recompress" box UNchecked Transcode CFHD-AVI in Premiere to Cineform m2t, "recompress" box UNchecked Import m2t into Nero and downscale, burn Note that Nero can't handle the CFHD-AVI directly; no matter how you set it, it wants to squeeze your 16:9 into anamorphic 4:3 with pillar boxes, hence the second step above. It works fine with Cineform m2t. This workflow is great with Nero 7; I tried it with 8 and it wouldn't burn, but I think I may have screwed up the install or something. I'll try again and post results if different. It takes a little more time breaking it into three steps but I get fewer crashes and better results.