CineForm and Sony XDCAM EX

[Ray Bell]

David, I downloaded the EX1 footage from this site
http://www.vecomvideo.com/pages/test_ex1.htm

then for the heck of it I placed the footage on a Premier timeline with
a Cineform preset....

to my suprise, the footage showed up and rendered... I output the movie
in AVI format and it played back somewhat... seemed to play for a few
frames then a few black frames, then a few more good frames and then some black frames... probably the GOP not being handled correctly???

anyway, it was a start.....

When can you comment of the Cineform/EX1 workflow.....

Sony has released the software/browser/converter to the public... and
now at least some footage is available for the public....

[Ray Bell]

I played a little more this morning with the files.... I think the reason my
original tests were skipping was because I didn't choose a preset for the
footage that was shot at 25P...

So now, the MP4 footage goes into AE and PPCS3 fine with Cineform intermediate output....

that is, I can take the MP4 native files into the program and export back out to Cineform Avi ........


Testing with HDlink on the MXF files the conversion does not work ( nor does Cineform indicate that it should )

HDlink does not see MP4 files at this time, so I couldn't test that......

remember, this is only a test to see what would happen when presenting the files to a Cineform product...

And, the camera isn't even released yet.........

[David Taylor]

When we announce support it will be through HD Link. The conversions will be more convenient and much faster than rendering through PPro or AE.

[Ray Bell]

MR Taylor, Thanks for the update.... as many folks are finding out that the intermediate solution that Sony has provided is lacking I think your product when released should provide a great value to the workflow....

So far from what I see, you guys just need to impliment conversion of MP4 files over to Cineform Intermediate AVI and your done...

I can't see any reason why anyone would want to convert to MFX unless they
want to use that format for their chosen editor... and that choice of editor should support AVI at the minimum...

So I'm sure your going to have a winner....

[John Hewat]

Originally Posted by David Taylor

When we announce support it will be through HD Link. The conversions will be more convenient and much faster than rendering through PPro or AE.

And does it look like it will go straight from MP4 to AVI or will we still have to take the middle step with the Sony software to go from MP4 to MXF and then use HDLink to go from MXF to AVI?

Hopefully we can skip the MXF conversion.

[James Huenergardt]

Hi,

I'm in the market for a new laptop.

I'm using Adobe on the PC, but was thinking about possibly getting a MacBook Pro.

I'm going to be shooting with my Z1U and my new Sony EX1 once it's delivered.

Just wondering if I should even consider this AND if it would work, how would/could this work with Cineform Prospect?

Or, should I just stick to a PC Laptop.

[David Newman]

If you use BootCamp Prospect HD will work fine.

[Ray Bell]

James, as an option, PC wise, Dell now has some very nice laptops that have built in blu-ray writers.....

That setup with cineform and the EX would be a nice combo.........

[James Huenergardt]

Just wondering where that is on your list of things to add?

Thanks,

Jim

[David Newman]

Oh yes! We are working on direct *.mp4 conversion within HDlink to CineForm AVI or MOV. We have made progress, so fingers crossed that it will arrive soon after the camera does.

[Ray Bell]

Some folks who are waiting on the camera claim that the first batch of
EX1 cameras have been delivered this week...

They are now being told they may get their cams in the second batch...

[Herminio Cordido]

Is Cineform Prospect HD supporting mp4 wrap from the sony EX1?
or When?
if not, are there other solutions for converting mp4 into avi?




Thanks

H

[David Taylor]

Not yet, but "soon"....

[David Newman]

To expand, we are already handing the video stream (in house) and now dealing with the various audio options. So very soon.

[John Hewat]

Originally Posted by David Newman

To expand, we are already handing the video stream (in house)...

And is the intention still to have these converted to avi in HDLink prior to editing?