CineForm and Sony XDCAM EX

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 03:01 AM

Can Prospect convert the MXF file to cineform intermediate? If not, how do I convert spanned mp4 clips as one cineform clip in HD link? When I convert an 8GB mxf file in hdlink, it comes out as only 600mb and is green screen. The clips are 1080 24p HQ.

Thanks
Mike

Nelson Maldonado · February 9th, 2008, 10:40 AM

thanks guys.

LH it is.

I take it that even though Adobe's site still totes the HS card, it appears that the card is on its way out even though aja updated the drivers to support Premiere CS3. Your thoughts?

David Newman · February 9th, 2008, 10:49 AM

We support MXFs, you systems seems to after an install issue. Try the CineForm->Tools->Register components. If that does fix it, please file a trouble ticket www.cineform.com/support

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 11:03 AM

thanks David, just tried the 8gb mxf file to completion, it shows a green check mark for completed but is only 3 gb in size and is green screen when played back. I'll try your fix.

Mike

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 11:21 AM

registered componets, but it still gives the exact result. It converts small files, mp4 or mxf, but large ones have problems. Also David, I am testing out Prospect with my EX-1 to see if it meets my needs, so I cannot submit a ticket.

Mike

David Taylor · February 9th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Adobe specifically wrote drivers (their own) to support the HS card for PPro 2 (if I recall correctly) release. Adobe never wrote drivers to support the LH and LHe. For LH and LHe support driver support comes from AJA or CineForm. Because of this, Adobe doesn't specifically endorse the LH or LHe card.

David Taylor · February 9th, 2008, 11:37 AM

Michael, you can always submit a ticket, even when using Trial versions....

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 11:48 AM

It asks for a serial number

Mike

David Newman · February 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM

Ignore that, the ticket goes through anyway.

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 12:03 PM

Thanks

Mike

Nelson Maldonado · February 9th, 2008, 12:05 PM

Ok...

So aja updated the HS drivers to support Premiere CS3. The LH card is the recommended card but not offically supported by Adobe.

Both the HS and LH cards offer 10bit digital HD SDI. I have looked at the Xena overview page and can see that the LH card has some extra features like genlock, a few more i/o channels, 12 bit HS SD analog component/composite i/o and 8-channel SDI embedded audio I/O.

What other advantages does the LH have over the HS?

Does the HS have embedded SDI i/o?

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 12:51 PM

another test, tried a 2.3 gb mp4 file and get this error in the log

Error: GetPin(pUpStream,PINDIR_OUTPUT, &outputPin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (DirectShowGraph.cpp at 377)

Error: ConnectPin(AudioDecoder, pin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275)

just converted a 1 GB mp4 file, it converted it fine.

Mike

Michael Stewart · February 9th, 2008, 02:39 PM

I took the 3 clips that spanned together, dropped all three mp4's on the timeline (PPRO3) and rendered out to cineform avi, of course no audio, but at least I can edit the files in a timeline now. Final Cineform file was 22 gb's.

Mike

Michael Stewart · February 10th, 2008, 12:55 PM

Tried Prospect 4k still the same error

Error: GetPin(pUpStream,PINDIR_OUTPUT, &outputPin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (DirectShowGraph.cpp at 377)

Error: ConnectPin(AudioDecoder, pin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275)

the file was 2.3 gb mp4 Sony EX1 file, it appears anything under 2 gb's works fine.

tried Prospect HD, 2k, 4k, all with the same error (although Prospect hd was (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2258) instead of (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275)

Aspect Hd, same error, I have tried several different mp4 files over 2gb's, all do the same thing.

Mike

Michael Stewart · February 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM

Hi David, do these errors sound like an install problem? Or a bug? I would hate to do a fresh install of windows to find out it was a bug.

Mike

February 9th, 2008, 03:01 AM	#151
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	EX-1 MXF files and Prospect HD issues Can Prospect convert the MXF file to cineform intermediate? If not, how do I convert spanned mp4 clips as one cineform clip in HD link? When I convert an 8GB mxf file in hdlink, it comes out as only 600mb and is green screen. The clips are 1080 24p HQ. Thanks Mike

February 9th, 2008, 10:49 AM	#153
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	We support MXFs, you systems seems to after an install issue. Try the CineForm->Tools->Register components. If that does fix it, please file a trouble ticket www.cineform.com/support __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM	#159
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Ignore that, the ticket goes through anyway. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 10th, 2008, 12:55 PM	#164
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	Tried Prospect 4k still the same error Error: GetPin(pUpStream,PINDIR_OUTPUT, &outputPin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (DirectShowGraph.cpp at 377) Error: ConnectPin(AudioDecoder, pin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275) the file was 2.3 gb mp4 Sony EX1 file, it appears anything under 2 gb's works fine. tried Prospect HD, 2k, 4k, all with the same error (although Prospect hd was (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2258) instead of (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275) Aspect Hd, same error, I have tried several different mp4 files over 2gb's, all do the same thing. Mike Last edited by Michael Stewart; February 10th, 2008 at 01:30 PM.

February 9th, 2008, 10:40 AM	#152
Nelson Maldonado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canton, Michigan, USA Posts: 50	thanks guys. LH it is. I take it that even though Adobe's site still totes the HS card, it appears that the card is on its way out even though aja updated the drivers to support Premiere CS3. Your thoughts?

February 9th, 2008, 11:03 AM	#154
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	thanks David, just tried the 8gb mxf file to completion, it shows a green check mark for completed but is only 3 gb in size and is green screen when played back. I'll try your fix. Mike

February 9th, 2008, 11:21 AM	#155
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	registered componets, but it still gives the exact result. It converts small files, mp4 or mxf, but large ones have problems. Also David, I am testing out Prospect with my EX-1 to see if it meets my needs, so I cannot submit a ticket. Mike

February 9th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#156
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Adobe specifically wrote drivers (their own) to support the HS card for PPro 2 (if I recall correctly) release. Adobe never wrote drivers to support the LH and LHe. For LH and LHe support driver support comes from AJA or CineForm. Because of this, Adobe doesn't specifically endorse the LH or LHe card.

February 9th, 2008, 11:37 AM	#157
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Michael, you can always submit a ticket, even when using Trial versions....

February 9th, 2008, 11:48 AM	#158
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	It asks for a serial number Mike

February 9th, 2008, 12:03 PM	#160
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	Thanks Mike

February 9th, 2008, 12:05 PM	#161
Nelson Maldonado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canton, Michigan, USA Posts: 50	Ok... So aja updated the HS drivers to support Premiere CS3. The LH card is the recommended card but not offically supported by Adobe. Both the HS and LH cards offer 10bit digital HD SDI. I have looked at the Xena overview page and can see that the LH card has some extra features like genlock, a few more i/o channels, 12 bit HS SD analog component/composite i/o and 8-channel SDI embedded audio I/O. What other advantages does the LH have over the HS? Does the HS have embedded SDI i/o?

February 9th, 2008, 12:51 PM	#162
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	another test, tried a 2.3 gb mp4 file and get this error in the log Error: GetPin(pUpStream,PINDIR_OUTPUT, &outputPin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (DirectShowGraph.cpp at 377) Error: ConnectPin(AudioDecoder, pin)(0x80004005-Unspecified error) in (ConvertGraph.cpp at 2275) just converted a 1 GB mp4 file, it converted it fine. Mike

February 9th, 2008, 02:39 PM	#163
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	I took the 3 clips that spanned together, dropped all three mp4's on the timeline (PPRO3) and rendered out to cineform avi, of course no audio, but at least I can edit the files in a timeline now. Final Cineform file was 22 gb's. Mike

February 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM	#165
Michael Stewart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 445	Hi David, do these errors sound like an install problem? Or a bug? I would hate to do a fresh install of windows to find out it was a bug. Mike