Cineform crashes with Vista 64 Ultimate. at DVinfo.net

Laurence Kingston · January 20th, 2008, 10:00 AM

I just got a new laptop with four gig of RAM and Vista Ultimate 64 OS. Vegas runs beautifully on it with other codecs, but crashes regularly when I try to use any clip which uses the Cineform codec.

I know that Cineform recommends XP, but I need the 64 bit OS in order to access all of my RAM, and aside from this one issue, I really have no complaints with the new OS and actually find myself liking many of the new features.

If push comes to shove, it is Cineform rather than Vista that will have to go, at least until this problem is worked out.

David Newman · January 20th, 2008, 11:53 AM

submit a report at www.cineform.com/support it should not crash, I doubt it is Vista 64 related.

Laurence Kingston · January 21st, 2008, 12:14 AM

I submitted a report. I am really glad to hear that you think that the problem is something that might be fixable. As I look at other codecs, none of them seem to come close to being able to do what Cineform does: mainly function as a working codec that is for all practical purposes, as good quality as uncompressed.

Laurence Kingston · January 22nd, 2008, 10:12 AM

On my ticket, the problem is now marked "resolved". I wish that it was. It looks like I must have checked some tab or something that changed the status but I sure didn't mean to. As I was typing, the interface was extremely slow and unresponsive and I would have to pause after typing the space after each word and wait for it to catch up.

David Newman · January 22nd, 2008, 10:29 AM

Re-open if you can. Jake will be in later this morning.

Laurence Kingston · January 22nd, 2008, 10:57 AM

You know, I'm looking at another Cineform project and it isn't crashing at all. I can't for the life of me figure out what is different though. I obviously have some more sleuthing to do.

David Newman · January 22nd, 2008, 11:16 AM

I expected we might find something like that. Try importing the bad project into a new project. Try and determine if it is the project or the media.

Laurence Kingston · January 22nd, 2008, 12:00 PM

The project that has been giving me problems the last couple of days now works perfectly. I did a media pool clean, but that shouldn't make much difference since it would only clean out unused files.

Earlier today I deleted the file AJACaptureFilter.ax from my Cineform directory but that didn't seem to help initially. Maybe it did make a difference after all.

Laurence Kingston · January 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM

AJACaptureFilter.ax was definately the culprit. Not only does Cineform work now in Vegas, but a seemingly unrelated problem where Sony DVD Architect would crash before starting is also now fixed.

Laurence Kingston · February 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Just ran into the same problem again today after updating Cineform Neo HDV. Vegas started crashing again. Deleted the culprit "ajacapturefilter.ax" and I expect everything will be fine again.

Is it possible maybe to change the installer so that if you don't have the Aja card installed, it doesn't try to install this file?

David Newman · February 8th, 2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurence Kingston

Just ran into the same problem again today after updating Cineform Neo HDV. Vegas started crashing again. Deleted the culprit "ajacapturefilter.ax" and I expect everything will be fine again.

Is it possible maybe to change the installer so that if you don't have the Aja card installed, it doesn't try to install this file?

That would be nice. It is not supposed to be registered, and should be passive yet some PC it registers anyway, so it would likely work its way onto your system even if we need tested for an AJA card. :) We intend to remove it completely in the next build, it is just an "evil" component.

Laurence Kingston · February 8th, 2008, 03:25 PM

Well even with ajacapturefilter.ax removed, since the update I'm getting constant crashing.

David Newman · February 8th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurence Kingston

Well even with ajacapturefilter.ax removed, since the update I'm getting constant crashing.

Contact support as there should be no other issues.

John Hewat · February 9th, 2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurence Kingston

I know that Cineform recommends XP, but I need the 64 bit OS in order to access all of my RAM...

So CS3 and Cineform can take advantage of the extra RAM in a 64bit operating system?

My new super-computer only has XP32 and I was debating whether to get XP64 but was advised not to, since CS3 and maybe Cineform might not use the extra RAM anyway.

Should I have gone with 64bit?

David Newman · February 9th, 2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John Hewat

So CS3 and Cineform can take advantage of the extra RAM in a 64bit operating system?

My new super-computer only has XP32 and I was debating whether to get XP64 but was advised not to, since CS3 and maybe Cineform might not use the extra RAM anyway.

Should I have gone with 64bit?

Vista is far more of an issue than XP64bit, work pretty much works fine if your devices have the required drivers. CS3 and CineForm are still 32-bit apps, yet there address memory does increase form 2GB or 4GB what can help in some cases.

January 20th, 2008, 10:00 AM	#1
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Cineform crashes with Vista 64 Ultimate. I just got a new laptop with four gig of RAM and Vista Ultimate 64 OS. Vegas runs beautifully on it with other codecs, but crashes regularly when I try to use any clip which uses the Cineform codec. I know that Cineform recommends XP, but I need the 64 bit OS in order to access all of my RAM, and aside from this one issue, I really have no complaints with the new OS and actually find myself liking many of the new features. If push comes to shove, it is Cineform rather than Vista that will have to go, at least until this problem is worked out.

January 20th, 2008, 11:53 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	submit a report at www.cineform.com/support it should not crash, I doubt it is Vista 64 related. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 22nd, 2008, 10:29 AM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re-open if you can. Jake will be in later this morning. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 22nd, 2008, 11:16 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I expected we might find something like that. Try importing the bad project into a new project. Try and determine if it is the project or the media. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 21st, 2008, 12:14 AM	#3
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	I submitted a report. I am really glad to hear that you think that the problem is something that might be fixable. As I look at other codecs, none of them seem to come close to being able to do what Cineform does: mainly function as a working codec that is for all practical purposes, as good quality as uncompressed.

January 22nd, 2008, 10:12 AM	#4
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	On my ticket, the problem is now marked "resolved". I wish that it was. It looks like I must have checked some tab or something that changed the status but I sure didn't mean to. As I was typing, the interface was extremely slow and unresponsive and I would have to pause after typing the space after each word and wait for it to catch up.

January 22nd, 2008, 10:57 AM	#6
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	You know, I'm looking at another Cineform project and it isn't crashing at all. I can't for the life of me figure out what is different though. I obviously have some more sleuthing to do.

January 22nd, 2008, 12:00 PM	#8
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	The project that has been giving me problems the last couple of days now works perfectly. I did a media pool clean, but that shouldn't make much difference since it would only clean out unused files. Earlier today I deleted the file AJACaptureFilter.ax from my Cineform directory but that didn't seem to help initially. Maybe it did make a difference after all.

January 22nd, 2008, 12:27 PM	#9
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	AJACaptureFilter.ax was definately the culprit. Not only does Cineform work now in Vegas, but a seemingly unrelated problem where Sony DVD Architect would crash before starting is also now fixed.

February 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM	#10
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Just ran into the same problem again today after updating Cineform Neo HDV. Vegas started crashing again. Deleted the culprit "ajacapturefilter.ax" and I expect everything will be fine again. Is it possible maybe to change the installer so that if you don't have the Aja card installed, it doesn't try to install this file?

February 8th, 2008, 03:25 PM	#12
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Well even with ajacapturefilter.ax removed, since the update I'm getting constant crashing.