Project Manager Premier Pro new Aspect HDV files?? at DVinfo.net

Steve Young · December 10th, 2007, 07:17 AM

I am using Premier Pro with Aspect HDV and my current project is well over 300gb, I have finished editing and would like to retain the project with the edits for future tweaking etc, is there anyway to use the Premier Pro project manager to create a smaller project using newly created Aspect HD files or is this just not possible?

Carl Middleton · December 10th, 2007, 07:42 AM

I think one of the options with the project manager 'trims' the source files, and stores the whole project complete with trimmed source files to a new location. Then, you can get rid of the originals, but be forewarned, if you need to move a cut around, the new trimmed files will have no wiggle room!

Carl

Todd Clark · December 10th, 2007, 08:21 AM

"be forewarned, if you need to move a cut around, the new trimmed files will have no wiggle room!"

That is not true. Premiere puts handles on each clip. The defult is 30 but you can change that to ad more.

Carl Middleton · December 10th, 2007, 11:35 PM

Thanks for the correction! Limited default wiggle room! That's what I meant, I promise! ;)

Carl

Steve Young · December 11th, 2007, 03:49 AM

You can export the new trimmed file with 25frame handles giving you some "wiggle" room ;)

What im asking is since you are using HDV captured files that have then been through the Aspect HD process, will the trimmed project create video files that are native HDV or one that are now using the Aspect HD codec?

Im thinking that if they are native HDV you will now be unable to edit easily using the Aspect HD codec therefore meaning you cannot create a trimmed usable project

Carl Middleton · December 11th, 2007, 09:27 AM

My understanding would be, if you're using AHD files in the project, AHD files are what would be trimmed and output. It wouldn't rerender everything down to m2t just to annoy you, I'm sure ;)

C

Bart Walczak · December 11th, 2007, 09:37 AM

I'm not sure Premiere will trim Cineform files. It surely does it for DV, and uncompressed, but I don't know about other formats.

Mike McCarthy · December 11th, 2007, 04:13 PM

It will trim the files to Cineform AVIs, assuming you are editing Cineform AVIs in a Cineform project. Certain file types don't get trimmed (Non-native), only copied to the new project, but Cineform files are trimmed correctly. I believe HDV Mpeg files in Cineform project will be copied in their entirety, but that may have changed in the recent version.

Graham Hickling · December 11th, 2007, 09:41 PM

As Mike says, CS3 creates trimmed AHD projects nicely.

BUT... be sure you have installed the 1.3 update!! Prior to that it corrupted/omitted audio files during the trimming process...

December 10th, 2007, 07:17 AM	#1
Steve Young Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maidstone UK Posts: 37	Project Manager Premier Pro new Aspect HDV files?? I am using Premier Pro with Aspect HDV and my current project is well over 300gb, I have finished editing and would like to retain the project with the edits for future tweaking etc, is there anyway to use the Premier Pro project manager to create a smaller project using newly created Aspect HD files or is this just not possible?

December 10th, 2007, 07:42 AM	#2
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	I think one of the options with the project manager 'trims' the source files, and stores the whole project complete with trimmed source files to a new location. Then, you can get rid of the originals, but be forewarned, if you need to move a cut around, the new trimmed files will have no wiggle room! Carl __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

December 10th, 2007, 11:35 PM	#4
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Thanks for the correction! Limited default wiggle room! That's what I meant, I promise! ;) Carl __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

December 11th, 2007, 09:27 AM	#6
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	My understanding would be, if you're using AHD files in the project, AHD files are what would be trimmed and output. It wouldn't rerender everything down to m2t just to annoy you, I'm sure ;) C __________________ Carl Middleton Whizkid Mediaworks

December 11th, 2007, 04:13 PM	#8
Mike McCarthy Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 517	It will trim the files to Cineform AVIs, assuming you are editing Cineform AVIs in a Cineform project. Certain file types don't get trimmed (Non-native), only copied to the new project, but Cineform files are trimmed correctly. I believe HDV Mpeg files in Cineform project will be copied in their entirety, but that may have changed in the recent version. __________________ For more information on these topics, check out my tech website at www.hd4pc.com

December 10th, 2007, 08:21 AM	#3
Todd Clark Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Parma, Oh Posts: 172	"be forewarned, if you need to move a cut around, the new trimmed files will have no wiggle room!" That is not true. Premiere puts handles on each clip. The defult is 30 but you can change that to ad more.

December 11th, 2007, 03:49 AM	#5
Steve Young Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maidstone UK Posts: 37	You can export the new trimmed file with 25frame handles giving you some "wiggle" room ;) What im asking is since you are using HDV captured files that have then been through the Aspect HD process, will the trimmed project create video files that are native HDV or one that are now using the Aspect HD codec? Im thinking that if they are native HDV you will now be unable to edit easily using the Aspect HD codec therefore meaning you cannot create a trimmed usable project

December 11th, 2007, 09:37 AM	#7
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	I'm not sure Premiere will trim Cineform files. It surely does it for DV, and uncompressed, but I don't know about other formats.

December 11th, 2007, 09:41 PM	#9
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	As Mike says, CS3 creates trimmed AHD projects nicely. BUT... be sure you have installed the 1.3 update!! Prior to that it corrupted/omitted audio files during the trimming process...