New Aspect/Prosect HD/2K version in beta: Update! at DVinfo.net

David Newman · November 10th, 2007, 06:29 PM

This is repost of the beta annoucement. We are now at build 142, which addressed the Aspect HD issue with the new "Force YUV" control. In addition to the features list below (in the original beta post,) there are several more subtle changes that you shouldn't see (hopefully.) Including: more CineForm RAW upgrades, some small fixes for Blackmagic captures and internal upgrades to CineForm 444 encoding.

Orginal post with new links: ----------------------

Welcome to version 3.2 (PHD/P2K) and v5.2 (AHD.) There have been I lot of under-the-hood changes and some new features and several bug fixes. As so many elements have changed in the release, I though I should beta test with DVInfo users first -- you are a calmer, more thoughtful lot. :)

Another reason to release as beta, is HD Expo is on for the next couple of days, halving our support staff at the office. So anything you find wrong with the beta post here or send a measage my DVInfo account -- I'm not going to HD Expo (sadly it is a show I always miss, yet I've heard good things http://www.hdexpo.net/.) If all goes well we hope that 3.2 can be out officially sometime next week.

Big additions :

1) NVidia level shifts, we stopping trying to use their broken YUV surface, now you can preview to RGB surface, preventing the color shift. In the playback controls you can now set whether to use YUV surface or not.

2) M2T export is back, and much better than before, as it now uses the Tsunami MPEG2 Encoder directly through the CineForm M2T export movie option. As it has been a long time since this worked correctly, here is a technote to remind everyone how to use the M2T export : http://www.cineform.com/products/Tec.../M2TExport.htm

Links:

Prospect HD : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip
Prospect 2K : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip
Aspect HD : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Asp...0.95-Setup.zip
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Hernan Vilchez · November 10th, 2007, 07:00 PM

Installed the beta of Aspect, try to playback a timeline i was working, the screen is green, both with YUV on and off....

I have nvidia Quadro FX 1500 and Premiere CS3

David Newman · November 10th, 2007, 07:15 PM

I just tried the Aspect HD beta and it works fine. You should try a reinstall.

David Newman · November 10th, 2007, 11:04 PM

Here it is:
Prospect 2K-DL : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip

Carlos Bustamante · November 11th, 2007, 05:35 AM

Dear David,
The latest Beta of Aspect 5.2 (build 95) worked very well, after I checked the "Force YUV" for playback.
Thanks.

Stephen Armour · November 11th, 2007, 07:34 AM

David, before I retry the very newest beta, I need to verify something with you.

The first beta worked fine......until we tried to play some older CFed material in PP3. It would not preview correctly. Is this something we should not expect to find in this very latest beta? When we reloaded the previous stable version, it was normal again.

We have a Parhelia APVe on that system.

Stephen Armour · November 11th, 2007, 07:48 AM

Link for the Prospect HD is for the Prospect 2K ... and that one scrambled the older material too.

I edited the link and it worked: http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip

Stephen Armour · November 11th, 2007, 08:05 AM

The latest Prospect HD beta (ProspectHD-3.2.0.142-Setup.zip) also scrambles the preview.

The older release (ProspectHDv312b139-071004.zip) works fine though.

Steven Gotz · November 11th, 2007, 10:01 AM

DAvid,

The link you posted to the M2T export tech note is broken.

David Newman · November 11th, 2007, 10:10 AM

M2T Tech note link is fixed. The Prospect HD link is fixed.

All old media should work fine, what are you seeing?

What is scambled in the preview? With a Parhelia you may require (and should use) "Force YUV".

We added the RGB mode to fix NVidia issues, however YUV is still the best output mode if your card supports it. We haven't any cards that don't support RGB, but maybe you have. With the "Force YUV" set, version 3.2 behaves just like 3.1 on preview playback.

Hernan Vilchez · November 11th, 2007, 10:45 AM

Green screens with Aspect 5.2 if i apply any filter to the clips and preview in the timeline. Uninstalled and reinstalled. Have nVidia Quadro FX1500. Never happened before---

David Newman · November 11th, 2007, 10:45 AM

If you can't get a good preview without Force YUV set, could you send me a screen shot (you might need to use a camera) and the brand and model of your video card. Also is anyone having issues with having Force YUV set. We currently default for Force YUV off, we could switch that if some graphics cards has issue. I've tested a few NVidia card and a ATI 9600Pro which all work. I've haven't tested the Parhelia.

Carl Middleton · November 11th, 2007, 11:02 AM

Just to confirm, the GeForce 8800 GTS does not support overlay with Force YUV unchecked. The overlay disappears upon playback, and reappears once playback stops. I don't think I'll make the mistake of buying an nVidia card again for video editing!

Other than nvidia's screwup there, the new release runs great, and is working quite well. :)

Carl

Hernan Vilchez · November 11th, 2007, 11:07 AM

Im serious, this update somehow managed to stop my workflow, now previewing with the previous version installed and applying any filter shows me also green screens. I will submit a ticket. This is not good at all for me....

Hernan Vilchez · November 11th, 2007, 11:11 AM

No need of screen shots: all the frame is green while previewing. The sound is still there. I was working easy and nice till applying this update...!

Ive lost 1 day of work! My client expected me to deliver the job tomorrow...

My card : nVidia FX Quadro 1500 Video Edition (similar to the FX540).

Please some help!

November 10th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	New Aspect/Prosect HD/2K version in beta: Update! This is repost of the beta annoucement. We are now at build 142, which addressed the Aspect HD issue with the new "Force YUV" control. In addition to the features list below (in the original beta post,) there are several more subtle changes that you shouldn't see (hopefully.) Including: more CineForm RAW upgrades, some small fixes for Blackmagic captures and internal upgrades to CineForm 444 encoding. Orginal post with new links: ---------------------- Welcome to version 3.2 (PHD/P2K) and v5.2 (AHD.) There have been I lot of under-the-hood changes and some new features and several bug fixes. As so many elements have changed in the release, I though I should beta test with DVInfo users first -- you are a calmer, more thoughtful lot. :) Another reason to release as beta, is HD Expo is on for the next couple of days, halving our support staff at the office. So anything you find wrong with the beta post here or send a measage my DVInfo account -- I'm not going to HD Expo (sadly it is a show I always miss, yet I've heard good things http://www.hdexpo.net/.) If all goes well we hope that 3.2 can be out officially sometime next week. Big additions : 1) NVidia level shifts, we stopping trying to use their broken YUV surface, now you can preview to RGB surface, preventing the color shift. In the playback controls you can now set whether to use YUV surface or not. 2) M2T export is back, and much better than before, as it now uses the Tsunami MPEG2 Encoder directly through the CineForm M2T export movie option. As it has been a long time since this worked correctly, here is a technote to remind everyone how to use the M2T export : http://www.cineform.com/products/Tec.../M2TExport.htm Links: Prospect HD : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip Prospect 2K : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip Aspect HD : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Asp...0.95-Setup.zip __________________ David Newman web: www.cineform.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman Last edited by David Newman; November 11th, 2007 at 10:06 AM.

November 10th, 2007, 07:00 PM	#2
Hernan Vilchez Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 135	Installed the beta of Aspect, try to playback a timeline i was working, the screen is green, both with YUV on and off.... I have nvidia Quadro FX 1500 and Premiere CS3 __________________ Hernan Vilchez kabopro.com myspace.com/kabopro

November 10th, 2007, 07:15 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I just tried the Aspect HD beta and it works fine. You should try a reinstall. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

November 10th, 2007, 11:04 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Here it is: Prospect 2K-DL : http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

November 11th, 2007, 07:34 AM	#6
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	David, before I retry the very newest beta, I need to verify something with you. The first beta worked fine......until we tried to play some older CFed material in PP3. It would not preview correctly. Is this something we should not expect to find in this very latest beta? When we reloaded the previous stable version, it was normal again. We have a Parhelia APVe on that system. __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

November 11th, 2007, 05:35 AM	#5
Carlos Bustamante Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 26	Dear David, The latest Beta of Aspect 5.2 (build 95) worked very well, after I checked the "Force YUV" for playback. Thanks.

November 11th, 2007, 07:48 AM	#7
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	Link for the Prospect HD is for the Prospect 2K ... and that one scrambled the older material too. I edited the link and it worked: http://www.miscdata.com/cineform/Pro....142-Setup.zip __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

November 11th, 2007, 08:05 AM	#8
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	The latest Prospect HD beta (ProspectHD-3.2.0.142-Setup.zip) also scrambles the preview. The older release (ProspectHDv312b139-071004.zip) works fine though. __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

November 11th, 2007, 10:01 AM	#9
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	DAvid, The link you posted to the M2T export tech note is broken. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

November 11th, 2007, 10:10 AM	#10
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	M2T Tech note link is fixed. The Prospect HD link is fixed. All old media should work fine, what are you seeing? What is scambled in the preview? With a Parhelia you may require (and should use) "Force YUV". We added the RGB mode to fix NVidia issues, however YUV is still the best output mode if your card supports it. We haven't any cards that don't support RGB, but maybe you have. With the "Force YUV" set, version 3.2 behaves just like 3.1 on preview playback. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

November 11th, 2007, 10:45 AM	#11
Hernan Vilchez Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 135	Green screens with Aspect 5.2 if i apply any filter to the clips and preview in the timeline. Uninstalled and reinstalled. Have nVidia Quadro FX1500. Never happened before--- __________________ Hernan Vilchez kabopro.com myspace.com/kabopro

November 11th, 2007, 11:02 AM	#13
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Just to confirm, the GeForce 8800 GTS does not support overlay with Force YUV unchecked. The overlay disappears upon playback, and reappears once playback stops. I don't think I'll make the mistake of buying an nVidia card again for video editing! Other than nvidia's screwup there, the new release runs great, and is working quite well. :) Carl

November 11th, 2007, 11:07 AM	#14
Hernan Vilchez Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 135	Im serious, this update somehow managed to stop my workflow, now previewing with the previous version installed and applying any filter shows me also green screens. I will submit a ticket. This is not good at all for me.... __________________ Hernan Vilchez kabopro.com myspace.com/kabopro

November 11th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#15
Hernan Vilchez Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 135	No need of screen shots: all the frame is green while previewing. The sound is still there. I was working easy and nice till applying this update...! Ive lost 1 day of work! My client expected me to deliver the job tomorrow... My card : nVidia FX Quadro 1500 Video Edition (similar to the FX540). Please some help! __________________ Hernan Vilchez kabopro.com myspace.com/kabopro