Sneak peek on the new builds at DVinfo.net

David Newman · August 25th, 2007, 10:09 AM

We have been working a long time on these builds, there are a lot of internal changes preparing for things to come. However there are no features in these builds, the biggest change is proper AE CS3 support, and my new pixel formats for the entire Adobe production suite. In the NEO 2K and Prospect 2K line there is extensive support for 4:4:4 with Alpha channels -- this is a first for any visually lossless compression product. Also many bug fixes. This will likely be officially released early next week, but you can get them now.

Aspect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/As...b89-070824.zip
Prospect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip
Prospect 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip
NEO HDV : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip
NEO HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip
NEO 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip

David Newman · August 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM

Changes in Prospect 2K, and other packages where feature is appropriate.

• Better Multi-cam editing performance under Premiere Pro CS3
• Holding the Ctrl key at the start of playback with force playback on non-real-time elements (optimized for CS3). Enabling Scroll Lock will make this the default behavior with the Ctrl key acting as a toggle.
• Alpha channel decoding support now within Premiere & AE – CineForm 4:4:4:4.
• AE CS3 importer now works without having to remove any AE components.
• Improve AE memory handling for rendering very large 4:4:4 frames.
• Fixed user control for timecode changing with Premiere Pro CS3.
• Fixed: scaling of HD for SD BMP exports now works.
• Fixed an XDCAM-HD conversion issue for non-English installs of Windows.
• Fix for distorted audio export from After Effects.
• Fix for converting JVC 24p sources in HDLink (broken in 3.0.3)
• Fixed the quality levels controls for HDLink capturing from HMDI cards – every setting was one lower than it should be and Low was undefined.
• Fixed a handle leak in the encoder.
• Fixed for decoding bayer images of difference phases.
• Fixed Windows Media Player under Vista showing weird colors (still don’t use Windows Media Player as it is very slow.)

Stephen Armour · August 25th, 2007, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

...This will likely be officially released early next week, but you can get them now.

Aspect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/As...b89-070824.zip
Prospect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/ht...136-070824.zip
Prospect 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip
NEO HDV : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip
NEO HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip
NEO 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip

Are these valids links? I can't get the Prospect HD to work

David Taylor · August 25th, 2007, 04:23 PM

Prospect HD: http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip

Stephen Armour · August 25th, 2007, 04:24 PM

Thanks! Worked fine now.

David Newman · August 25th, 2007, 04:48 PM

I also fixed the broken link.

Chris Cosic · August 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM

Great work, thanks.

Jon Jaschob · August 26th, 2007, 12:31 PM

"• Fixed Windows Media Player under Vista showing weird colors (still don’t use Windows Media Player as it is very slow.)"

What would I use to view my cineform HD avi files with, if not WMP. I don't use vista, still on xp.

Thanks,
Jon

David Newman · August 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM

Jon, the error is in Vista, so the XP version of Window Media Player works fine. However, Media Player Classic is a very good alternative.

Wayne Johnson · August 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Jaschob

"• Fixed Windows Media Player under Vista showing weird colors (still don’t use Windows Media Player as it is very slow.)"

What would I use to view my cineform HD avi files with, if not WMP. I don't use vista, still on xp.

Thanks,
Jon

Media Player Classic has always worked under Vista for me. Wayne

Ray Bell · August 27th, 2007, 05:11 AM

Thanks David... seems to work nicely with AE now...

Idar Lettrem · August 27th, 2007, 06:13 AM

[ This will likely be officially released early next week, but you can get them now.

If I buy aspect today (having try-out -version installed) will I then be charged for theese updates?

Marc Colemont · August 27th, 2007, 07:59 AM

Hi David, will the 'Alfa channel' only be available in the 2K products?
Or also for ProspectHD - AspectHD?

Stephen Armour · August 27th, 2007, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Colemont

Hi David, will the 'Alfa channel' only be available in the 2K products?
Or also for ProspectHD - AspectHD?

Our question too...would be sad if not. Especially since Prospect was the original "HD" product. Sure hope it's a "yes".

David Newman · August 27th, 2007, 09:17 AM

All the point versions updates are free, we are working on 3.1, so there will be more free updates to come for some time.

Alpha channel support is only in NEO 2K and Prospect 2K lines as it needs the 4:4:4 encoding engine to work from. Prospect HD and Aspect HD are 4:2:2 color systems. All the original Prospect HD owners (those who paid $2K+) where upgraded to Propspect 2K for free as we knew 4:4:4 was coming, although alpha channel is bonus. Give the 2K line a try to see if you want to upgrade.

The good news for Aspect HD, Prospect HD users, is the new decoder is compatible with 4:4:4:4 files, so you might consider adding a lower cost seat of NEO 2K create your alpha channel material, and cut that with your existing editing license. We will see if we can make deal inviting to you.

August 25th, 2007, 10:09 AM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Sneak peek on the new builds We have been working a long time on these builds, there are a lot of internal changes preparing for things to come. However there are no features in these builds, the biggest change is proper AE CS3 support, and my new pixel formats for the entire Adobe production suite. In the NEO 2K and Prospect 2K line there is extensive support for 4:4:4 with Alpha channels -- this is a first for any visually lossless compression product. Also many bug fixes. This will likely be officially released early next week, but you can get them now. Aspect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/As...b89-070824.zip Prospect HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip Prospect 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip NEO HDV : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip NEO HD : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip NEO 2K : http://www.cineform.com/downloads/NE...136-070824.zip __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 25th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Changes in Prospect 2K, and other packages where feature is appropriate. • Better Multi-cam editing performance under Premiere Pro CS3 • Holding the Ctrl key at the start of playback with force playback on non-real-time elements (optimized for CS3). Enabling Scroll Lock will make this the default behavior with the Ctrl key acting as a toggle. • Alpha channel decoding support now within Premiere & AE – CineForm 4:4:4:4. • AE CS3 importer now works without having to remove any AE components. • Improve AE memory handling for rendering very large 4:4:4 frames. • Fixed user control for timecode changing with Premiere Pro CS3. • Fixed: scaling of HD for SD BMP exports now works. • Fixed an XDCAM-HD conversion issue for non-English installs of Windows. • Fix for distorted audio export from After Effects. • Fix for converting JVC 24p sources in HDLink (broken in 3.0.3) • Fixed the quality levels controls for HDLink capturing from HMDI cards – every setting was one lower than it should be and Low was undefined. • Fixed a handle leak in the encoder. • Fixed for decoding bayer images of difference phases. • Fixed Windows Media Player under Vista showing weird colors (still don’t use Windows Media Player as it is very slow.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 25th, 2007, 04:24 PM	#5
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	Thanks! Worked fine now. __________________ http://lightinaction.org "All in the view of the LION"

August 25th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I also fixed the broken link. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 26th, 2007, 12:31 PM	#8
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Question "• Fixed Windows Media Player under Vista showing weird colors (still don’t use Windows Media Player as it is very slow.)" What would I use to view my cineform HD avi files with, if not WMP. I don't use vista, still on xp. Thanks, Jon

August 25th, 2007, 04:23 PM	#4
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Prospect HD: http://www.cineform.com/downloads/Pr...136-070824.zip

August 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#7
Chris Cosic New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cologne Posts: 22	Great work, thanks.

August 26th, 2007, 05:04 PM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Jon, the error is in Vista, so the XP version of Window Media Player works fine. However, Media Player Classic is a very good alternative. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 27th, 2007, 05:11 AM	#11
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Thanks David... seems to work nicely with AE now...

August 27th, 2007, 06:13 AM	#12
Idar Lettrem Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: norway Posts: 50	[ This will likely be officially released early next week, but you can get them now. If I buy aspect today (having try-out -version installed) will I then be charged for theese updates?

August 27th, 2007, 07:59 AM	#13
Marc Colemont Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 695	Hi David, will the 'Alfa channel' only be available in the 2K products? Or also for ProspectHD - AspectHD?

August 27th, 2007, 09:17 AM	#15
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	All the point versions updates are free, we are working on 3.1, so there will be more free updates to come for some time. Alpha channel support is only in NEO 2K and Prospect 2K lines as it needs the 4:4:4 encoding engine to work from. Prospect HD and Aspect HD are 4:2:2 color systems. All the original Prospect HD owners (those who paid $2K+) where upgraded to Propspect 2K for free as we knew 4:4:4 was coming, although alpha channel is bonus. Give the 2K line a try to see if you want to upgrade. The good news for Aspect HD, Prospect HD users, is the new decoder is compatible with 4:4:4:4 files, so you might consider adding a lower cost seat of NEO 2K create your alpha channel material, and cut that with your existing editing license. We will see if we can make deal inviting to you. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman