Odd Thing With WMP & Cineform

[Clay Coulter]

I hope this is an easy one. When I play back an AVI encoded with Cineform, I get a double offset image appearing to be interlaced on itself. I have NEO HDV and was encoding with After Effects. Odd thing is, this used to work fine.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[David Newman]

Don't use Window Media Player -- too many bugs. Try it in anything else, then report back. We like Media Player Classic -- http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...er_Classic.htm

[David Parks]

What about the free NEO PLayer...

http://www.cineform.com/products/Dow...layerStart.htm

Cheers

[David Newman]

No. That ships decoder components only, you still need a player application.

[David Parks]

I see. So the decoder is compatible with various players including VLC??

[David Taylor]

Yes it is.

[David Newman]

VLC doesn't use DirectShow, so everything else.

[Clay Coulter]

Thank you all. I will try the Media Player Classic as you have suggested and see if I get a different result. I'll report back.

[Clay Coulter]

I'm still getting the same result even in the Media Player Classic. I have tried rendering out using different quality settings but with the same result. I have posted the file I am trying to play at:
http://www.advantipro.com/Title.zip

If convenient, could you see if the file plays normally for you?

Thank you.

[David Newman]

The clip works fine, you may just need to uninstall and reinstall CineForm. If you are on Vista, turn off the User Account protection tools, just in case this is causing an issue.

[Clay Coulter]

Thank you, David. I'll take your suggestion and reinstall. Also thanks for checking out the clip. I'm glad to know that the problem is just something local.

[Matt Vanecek]

Originally Posted by Clay Coulter

Thank you, David. I'll take your suggestion and reinstall. Also thanks for checking out the clip. I'm glad to know that the problem is just something local.

Clay,
I noticed the same problem you described when I upgraded my Cineform. I was on build 85 and upgraded to 87, then 88. Any MS DV videos encoded from Cineform source thereafter displayed the offset and jumping. If I selected "deinterlace" in the encoding then the video *seemed* OK--but of course I was deinterlacing footage that's already progressive, so that's kinda dumb.

I switched back to build 85, and all is well. Something changed after build 85 that messed up encoding Cineform AVIs to MS DV codec.

Thanks
Matt

[David Newman]

Mat,

Seems unrelated to this thread, and I have no idea what "displayed the offset and jumping" means. Please fill a trouble ticket as we have no other reports with DV export issue, note: which is not a CineForm funciton, it is Adobe feature.

[Matt Vanecek]

Originally Posted by David Newman

Mat,

Seems unrelated to this thread, and I have no idea what "displayed the offset and jumping" means. Please fill a trouble ticket as we have no other reports with DV export issue, note: which is not a CineForm funciton, it is Adobe feature.

Yeah, it's an Adobe feature, but didn't happen until I updated AspectHD, and was fixed when I back-levelled AspectHD. I'll fill out a trouble ticket tomorrow. I think I still have a sample of the weird file laying around....

Thanks,
Matt

[edit]"displayed the offset and jumping" was a reference back to the original message of this thread.

[Matt Vanecek]

Dave,
I opened a ticket 611-4919490 on this issue just now. Also, I attached to this message a JPG of what the video looks like on the bad encode. As part of the ticket, I posted a link to both a good encode (build 85) and a bad encode (build 87/88).

Thanks,
Matt