After Effects and Premier Pro Export Issue at DVinfo.net

Dmitry Yun · August 4th, 2007, 02:52 PM

Hi, I just purchased the new Neo HDV software, and whenever I user the Cineform codec as export within my batch render in after effects I seem to run into issues but I think more on the Premier Pro 2.0 side. When I import the footage into the 24p HDV timeline in premier I only see about 3 seconds of the footage, although when I play it in media player or after effects there is 5 minutes of it. It seems not to accept the rest of the footage as if some option has been clicked off. Is this an issue anyone is familiar with?

Thanks in advance :)

Dmitry Yun · August 4th, 2007, 06:37 PM

Please someone if you could, this really limits my workflow right now because I am trying to perform some keying in after effects and really can't even export the footage correctly.

David Newman · August 4th, 2007, 09:38 PM

Could you elborate, I don't understand what is happening where. Also 24p HDV is not descriptive as that could be and M2T file or AVI, we will need to know which media types you are using.

Dmitry Yun · August 5th, 2007, 07:19 AM

Hi David, thanks for the response. Well basicaly the issues is this, when i capture my footage from my HV20 through HDLink it works just fine in Premier Pro 2.0, and when I export that footage with Premier Pro after editing it; works just fine as well. Now, when I take that footage, color correct it in After Effects 7.0 -> Then I add to que, Render with Cineform Codec that I got with my Neo HDV.

After that I import the rendered footage into Premier. And only about a sixth of that footage shows up in Premier. I can watch the exported video just fine with Media Player (all the 5 minutes of it) but Premier imports it only partialy about 30secs per every 5 minutes.

It's really frustrating and don't know whats happening.

Thanks.

David Newman · August 5th, 2007, 08:57 AM

Wow! This is weird. Could you upload one of those AVI exported from AE that has this problem?

When rendering from AE, are you using audio? We have a recent fix for audio, more recent than the latest builds. Were you using the Video for Windows CineForm HD Codec v3.2.x or using the direct "CineForm AVI" export module?

Dmitry Yun · August 5th, 2007, 09:43 AM

I know isn't it weird? :) I tried both ways, I've exported video for windows with the Cineform Codec 3.2.x as well as the direct Cineform codec itself, I do not have any audio in the footage as I have it in the Premiere timeline so I have no need for it in AE, it's weird because it just started happening. I was using ConnectHD and my trial ended, so I was like ok. And I bought Neo HDV and this happens :( what a bummer. Is there a way I can upgrade to Aspect HD because this has really just stopped my project from moving :( you know whats also weird. When I import the clip back into After Effects I see the whole 5 minutes of footage. It seems to be a problem between the encoding that after effects uses and the communication with Premiere.

btw tried to put in a ticket to support yesterday but it was down due to maintanance.

David Newman · August 5th, 2007, 10:11 AM

I'm going to need to see a file.

Aspect HD will give you a 15-day trial, so use that to keep moving.

Dmitry Yun · August 5th, 2007, 04:38 PM

Do you have some FTP for this purpouse, or should I use some free file hosting site?

David Newman · August 5th, 2007, 05:02 PM

Use yousendit.com or similar.

Dmitry Yun · August 5th, 2007, 08:12 PM

Hey David, can't thank you enough for your help. I'm uploading the file now.
Thank you. here is the link: http://download.yousendit.com/BFA569EF186EAE7A

Dmitry Yun · August 6th, 2007, 08:41 AM

damn can't use Aspect HD becuase my trial version has been expired. :( I never even used Aspect HD on my computer just ConnectHD, Stupid computer. I'm so happy there is no hammer near by.

David Newman · August 6th, 2007, 09:27 AM

Aspect HD doesn't use the Connect HD license, so that seems unlikely. Complete uninstall the old software first then it should work. So could also try Prospect HD.

Dmitry Yun · August 6th, 2007, 09:42 AM

I think the person who I bought this computer from has already used all of your products :( I'll try ProspectHD.

David Newman · August 6th, 2007, 09:43 AM

That video clip works fine here. It is about 10 seconds long in MediaPlayer, VirtualDub and Premiere. Is that correct?

Dmitry Yun · August 6th, 2007, 10:30 AM

Yeah that's correct David. If I import that clip into premier, I only se about 2 seconds of it and the rest is cut off :(

August 4th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#1
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	After Effects and Premier Pro Export Issue Hi, I just purchased the new Neo HDV software, and whenever I user the Cineform codec as export within my batch render in after effects I seem to run into issues but I think more on the Premier Pro 2.0 side. When I import the footage into the 24p HDV timeline in premier I only see about 3 seconds of the footage, although when I play it in media player or after effects there is 5 minutes of it. It seems not to accept the rest of the footage as if some option has been clicked off. Is this an issue anyone is familiar with? Thanks in advance :)

August 4th, 2007, 09:38 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Could you elborate, I don't understand what is happening where. Also 24p HDV is not descriptive as that could be and M2T file or AVI, we will need to know which media types you are using. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 5th, 2007, 07:19 AM	#4
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Elaboration Hi David, thanks for the response. Well basicaly the issues is this, when i capture my footage from my HV20 through HDLink it works just fine in Premier Pro 2.0, and when I export that footage with Premier Pro after editing it; works just fine as well. Now, when I take that footage, color correct it in After Effects 7.0 -> Then I add to que, Render with Cineform Codec that I got with my Neo HDV. After that I import the rendered footage into Premier. And only about a sixth of that footage shows up in Premier. I can watch the exported video just fine with Media Player (all the 5 minutes of it) but Premier imports it only partialy about 30secs per every 5 minutes. It's really frustrating and don't know whats happening. Thanks.

August 5th, 2007, 08:57 AM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Wow! This is weird. Could you upload one of those AVI exported from AE that has this problem? When rendering from AE, are you using audio? We have a recent fix for audio, more recent than the latest builds. Were you using the Video for Windows CineForm HD Codec v3.2.x or using the direct "CineForm AVI" export module? __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 5th, 2007, 10:11 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I'm going to need to see a file. Aspect HD will give you a 15-day trial, so use that to keep moving. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 4th, 2007, 06:37 PM	#2
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Please someone if you could, this really limits my workflow right now because I am trying to perform some keying in after effects and really can't even export the footage correctly.

August 5th, 2007, 09:43 AM	#6
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	I know isn't it weird? :) I tried both ways, I've exported video for windows with the Cineform Codec 3.2.x as well as the direct Cineform codec itself, I do not have any audio in the footage as I have it in the Premiere timeline so I have no need for it in AE, it's weird because it just started happening. I was using ConnectHD and my trial ended, so I was like ok. And I bought Neo HDV and this happens :( what a bummer. Is there a way I can upgrade to Aspect HD because this has really just stopped my project from moving :( you know whats also weird. When I import the clip back into After Effects I see the whole 5 minutes of footage. It seems to be a problem between the encoding that after effects uses and the communication with Premiere. btw tried to put in a ticket to support yesterday but it was down due to maintanance.

August 5th, 2007, 04:38 PM	#8
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Do you have some FTP for this purpouse, or should I use some free file hosting site?

August 5th, 2007, 05:02 PM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Use yousendit.com or similar. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 5th, 2007, 08:12 PM	#10
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Many thanks. Hey David, can't thank you enough for your help. I'm uploading the file now. Thank you. here is the link: http://download.yousendit.com/BFA569EF186EAE7A

August 6th, 2007, 08:41 AM	#11
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	damn can't use Aspect HD becuase my trial version has been expired. :( I never even used Aspect HD on my computer just ConnectHD, Stupid computer. I'm so happy there is no hammer near by.

August 6th, 2007, 09:27 AM	#12
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Aspect HD doesn't use the Connect HD license, so that seems unlikely. Complete uninstall the old software first then it should work. So could also try Prospect HD. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 6th, 2007, 09:42 AM	#13
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	I think the person who I bought this computer from has already used all of your products :( I'll try ProspectHD.

August 6th, 2007, 09:43 AM	#14
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That video clip works fine here. It is about 10 seconds long in MediaPlayer, VirtualDub and Premiere. Is that correct? __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 6th, 2007, 10:30 AM	#15
Dmitry Yun Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 170	Yeah that's correct David. If I import that clip into premier, I only se about 2 seconds of it and the rest is cut off :(