Panasonic DVX100 vs canon xl1s at DVinfo.net

Greg Filipkowski · May 7th, 2003, 07:31 AM

Panasonic DVX100 vs canon xl1s
Which one is better fo action sports, final on dvd?

Kevin Boucher · May 7th, 2003, 07:41 AM

Dear Greg,
Check out the search function on the message board and I'm sure you'll find a few threads about this subject matter :)

Have a nice day,
Kev

Adrian Douglas · May 7th, 2003, 08:39 AM

Greg,

Having shot snowboarding and skateboarding with the XL1 I would be looking at the GL2 or the DVX. The XL is a fairly large camera and on many an occasion I wished I had something smaller. That's where the GL2 comes in, it's basically an XL without the detachable lens in a compact easy to handle package. Throw on the WD58 wide angle adapter and you have an excellent camera for action sports.

As to the GL2 or the DVX, both are excellent cameras and would be perfect for what you want. If I was you I would go to B and H there in NY and play with the two of them and see with one you like the best.

Dylan Couper · May 7th, 2003, 08:54 AM

What type of sports?

If it's something like stadium sports or surfing where you are far away from your subject, the XL1's ability to use Canon EOS lenses is very useful. If it's something that requires YOU to be part of the action, I'd get something small and light like the GL2.

The DVX100 has a better picture than either, I think, but is limited by it's zoom.

Greg Filipkowski · May 7th, 2003, 06:18 PM

I don't need lens power but I need quality, I like the film look however the dvx footage looks better than cxl1 or is just BS?
this is what we shoot
http://www.vispol.com/LifeXtreme/liextremetrailer.mpg

we have to buy 3, so I don't want to spend $$ and end up with no quality,

ThankX

Dylan Couper · May 7th, 2003, 08:11 PM

Cool stuff! Looks right up my alley.

If you need 3 cameras, I'd buy GL2s. Great picture quality, much bigger zoom than the DVX100, and probably close to $1000 each cheaper.

The DVX100 probably has the best picture in terms of filmy look, but that's probably not neccesary for the type of stuff you are shooting.

Adrian Douglas · May 7th, 2003, 08:43 PM

If you have to buy three cameras then you have a couple of options. If you want a Standard Films look, most of their stuff is shot on 16mm film, then I'd go for three DVXs.

On the other hand if it was me, I've been using an XL1 for this kind of stuff since early 99, I would go for an XL1s and 2 GL2s. This set up would give you awesome flexability. I'd use the XL as the main camera and the 2 GLs for roaming action/in close work.

It all depends on which camera produces the look you like. The XL/GL in frame mode has a particular look, as does the DVX in 24/30p modes. Like I said before check them out side by side, or rent them both for a day and do some test shots to compare.

Greg Filipkowski · May 7th, 2003, 09:25 PM

Where can I get the best price on dvx, also I have to mount one of these cams in front of the car under the front bumper, any grips? any ideas, I shoot 3 cannon xl1 last time, now I will try dvx, also I was looking at the jvc hd, so no I'm confused but I think i will go with the dvx, but did you guys see the actual footage on dvx? not filtered an all that, stright footage? and by the way did you guys like my trailer?

Frank Granovski · May 7th, 2003, 10:14 PM

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Kevin Maistros · May 13th, 2003, 11:01 AM

Greg,

I shoot action sports often and I have used the XL-1s, GL2, GL1, DVX, and Sony VX-2000 cameras. Through all my experiences with them, I personally find the XL-1s to be the best for me. Typically I use a Century Optics .3x fisheye lense accessory, as often the locations being shot at are compact or the shot I want requires my being close to the subject.

Weight is actually quite different than what you'd expect if you compare the two. I've found that most of the other cameras are heavier than the XL-1s once you include the batteries and attachments. In fact just yesterday my friend pointed out the same thing when he switched from his GL2 (No attachments, just the base camera and an 8hour battery.) he said that the XL-1s was lighter even though it had the battery, LCD, and the Century .3

By the way, that video was alright. What was the song used? I like it.

Hope that helps.

May 7th, 2003, 07:31 AM	#1
Greg Filipkowski New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 20	Panasonic DVX100 vs canon xl1s Panasonic DVX100 vs canon xl1s Which one is better fo action sports, final on dvd? __________________ You do it nice or you do it twice

May 7th, 2003, 08:39 AM	#3
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Greg, Having shot snowboarding and skateboarding with the XL1 I would be looking at the GL2 or the DVX. The XL is a fairly large camera and on many an occasion I wished I had something smaller. That's where the GL2 comes in, it's basically an XL without the detachable lens in a compact easy to handle package. Throw on the WD58 wide angle adapter and you have an excellent camera for action sports. As to the GL2 or the DVX, both are excellent cameras and would be perfect for what you want. If I was you I would go to B and H there in NY and play with the two of them and see with one you like the best. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

May 7th, 2003, 08:54 AM	#4
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	What type of sports? If it's something like stadium sports or surfing where you are far away from your subject, the XL1's ability to use Canon EOS lenses is very useful. If it's something that requires YOU to be part of the action, I'd get something small and light like the GL2. The DVX100 has a better picture than either, I think, but is limited by it's zoom. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 7th, 2003, 06:18 PM	#5
Greg Filipkowski New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 20	Thanks for your input I don't need lens power but I need quality, I like the film look however the dvx footage looks better than cxl1 or is just BS? this is what we shoot http://www.vispol.com/LifeXtreme/liextremetrailer.mpg we have to buy 3, so I don't want to spend $$ and end up with no quality, ThankX __________________ You do it nice or you do it twice

May 7th, 2003, 08:11 PM	#6
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Cool stuff! Looks right up my alley. If you need 3 cameras, I'd buy GL2s. Great picture quality, much bigger zoom than the DVX100, and probably close to $1000 each cheaper. The DVX100 probably has the best picture in terms of filmy look, but that's probably not neccesary for the type of stuff you are shooting. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 7th, 2003, 07:41 AM	#2
Kevin Boucher New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 23	Dear Greg, Check out the search function on the message board and I'm sure you'll find a few threads about this subject matter :) Have a nice day, Kev

May 7th, 2003, 08:43 PM	#7
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	If you have to buy three cameras then you have a couple of options. If you want a Standard Films look, most of their stuff is shot on 16mm film, then I'd go for three DVXs. On the other hand if it was me, I've been using an XL1 for this kind of stuff since early 99, I would go for an XL1s and 2 GL2s. This set up would give you awesome flexability. I'd use the XL as the main camera and the 2 GLs for roaming action/in close work. It all depends on which camera produces the look you like. The XL/GL in frame mode has a particular look, as does the DVX in 24/30p modes. Like I said before check them out side by side, or rent them both for a day and do some test shots to compare. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

May 7th, 2003, 09:25 PM	#8
Greg Filipkowski New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 20	thanks Where can I get the best price on dvx, also I have to mount one of these cams in front of the car under the front bumper, any grips? any ideas, I shoot 3 cannon xl1 last time, now I will try dvx, also I was looking at the jvc hd, so no I'm confused but I think i will go with the dvx, but did you guys see the actual footage on dvx? not filtered an all that, stright footage? and by the way did you guys like my trailer? __________________ You do it nice or you do it twice

May 7th, 2003, 10:14 PM	#9
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Re: "Where can I get the best price on dvx" Be careful about prices too good to be true. Perhaps check out our sponsors.

May 13th, 2003, 11:01 AM	#10
Kevin Maistros Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 129	Greg, I shoot action sports often and I have used the XL-1s, GL2, GL1, DVX, and Sony VX-2000 cameras. Through all my experiences with them, I personally find the XL-1s to be the best for me. Typically I use a Century Optics .3x fisheye lense accessory, as often the locations being shot at are compact or the shot I want requires my being close to the subject. Weight is actually quite different than what you'd expect if you compare the two. I've found that most of the other cameras are heavier than the XL-1s once you include the batteries and attachments. In fact just yesterday my friend pointed out the same thing when he switched from his GL2 (No attachments, just the base camera and an 8hour battery.) he said that the XL-1s was lighter even though it had the battery, LCD, and the Century .3 By the way, that video was alright. What was the song used? I like it. Hope that helps.