XL1 owners, what do you play back on? at DVinfo.net

Charles Culpepper · March 9th, 2007, 09:15 AM

I'm curious what other people review their recorded material on. I'm assuming almost no ones plays straight back from the XL1 as this wears out the head.
So what do you play back, rewind, fast forward, etc on?
The other reason is I'm curious if anyone plays back on any sony products, as my material recorded with my XL1 plays back distorted on both of my Sony products (a mini DV player and a 950 camera.)

Mark Bournes · March 9th, 2007, 12:11 PM

I use a jvc camera, a cheapie I bought off ebay for $100. I use the firewire connection and it works just fine.

Cole McDonald · March 9th, 2007, 12:34 PM

spent all my $$$ on the camera and FC Studio...I play back on the XL1s...no other option...I would love a dedicated deck if someone wanted to donate one ;)

Lorinda Norton · March 9th, 2007, 06:39 PM

I've had my XL1s cameras since '01 and '02. I do everything with them after I found out less-expensive decks won't work. A higher-end Sony player handled my tapes fine, but I didn't want to spend $2000+ on a deck.

An old-timer on this board (that would be ol' Jeff Donald ;) once told me I'd be ready for new cameras by the time I wore out the heads on mine. So far, he's been right.

Don DesJardin · March 9th, 2007, 08:39 PM

I purchased a Panasonic AG-DV1000 VTR 4 years ago, and it has been rock solid since then. I looked online and they are still going for between $1,100 and $1,200. I have seen them on Ebay, but not that often.

Don Palomaki · March 10th, 2007, 06:59 AM

For playback and capture I use a Sony DHR-1000 and occasionally a SOny GV-D300.

Les Wilson · March 10th, 2007, 06:30 PM

Using my XL1s, I have been successful with a Sony DSR-11 and UNSUCCESSFUL with a JVC DV3000. The audio track suffered. This unit is theoretically a twin of a Panasonic model.

Best I could tell when talking to the Full Compass tech person is that the error correction algorithms in the JVC just weren't doing well with the data that was "out of spec" from my XL1s. That is, the data coming off the tape wasn't perfect. My camera had been into Canon and so... Anyway, the Sony DSR-11 handles it as does my trusty Sony TRV-900. But, my good ole Canon Optura Pi did not and neither did my JVC SR-VS30 "Professional" deck.

I am not pointing fingers at JVC. I just won't buy them anymore as they aren't compatible with my XL1s.

Barry Gribble · March 11th, 2007, 10:26 AM

I play back on a Canon ZR-40, which can't cost more than $100 on eBay these days...

Seth Kanne · March 13th, 2007, 10:29 AM

I've had my XL1s since 2003 and have used it to playback/capture extensively...All good so far.

Jon Pavli · March 13th, 2007, 01:48 PM

I too use the Canon ZR-40 camera for capturing. As said with the earlier post, they can be had for a pretty good price. IMHO, much cheaper that sending the Canon XL camera off to the Factory Service Center for repair. Even though I just did that for my Canon XL camera and the typical $400+ bill.

I found my Canon ZR-40 off of craigslist. Keep searching and you'll find something similar to use.

Cheers, Jon

Jeffrey Butler · March 13th, 2007, 08:13 PM

I use the DRS-11. Matter of taste, though, I suppose. With the deck, you can still use the camera - either on a shoot or capturing on a second computer. Lots of reasons to get a deck; speed, versatility...but it's optional. You probably will want a new camera before you use the heads up, but if you do use a deck, you (should) get more for it b/c you'll have a ton less head hours...

Charles Culpepper · March 14th, 2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Pavli

I too use the Canon ZR-40 camera for capturing. As said with the earlier post, they can be had for a pretty good price. IMHO, much cheaper that sending the Canon XL camera off to the Factory Service Center for repair. Even though I just did that for my Canon XL camera and the typical $400+ bill.

I found my Canon ZR-40 off of craigslist. Keep searching and you'll find something similar to use.

Cheers, Jon

Do you happen to know if the ZR-40 works well with Final Cut Studio?

Jon Pavli · March 15th, 2007, 10:32 AM

I don't have any information about the ZR-40 working it FCP, however, I would think it would have no problem. Mac's use firewire, right? ZR-40 has 4-pin firewire connector, so I think they should work together!

Good luck.

Cheers, Jon

Andrew Paul · April 2nd, 2007, 03:36 PM

I bought a cheap faulty canon camera off ebay with firewire for £15. The lens did not work so you couldn`t use it to record via the lense but you can record on it via the firewire. Does the job as a deck perfectly. Quality of capture and record is perfect.

Herman Van Deventer · April 3rd, 2007, 02:58 PM

Bought my XL1 1998 /

Shot 13x 26 min episodes and 6 x 54 min episodes for TV broadcast.
44 Music videos / 73 corporate productions and some normal thread of the
mill stuff to keep the pot cooking and pay the bills.

I've used the camera from day one as a deck / Zero - problems.

I nearly sold it to help pay the upgrade to the XLH1. Although I needed
the money I decided against it and kind of framed it in my studio as part
of my soul.

Herman.

March 9th, 2007, 09:15 AM	#1
Charles Culpepper New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 18	XL1 owners, what do you play back on? I'm curious what other people review their recorded material on. I'm assuming almost no ones plays straight back from the XL1 as this wears out the head. So what do you play back, rewind, fast forward, etc on? The other reason is I'm curious if anyone plays back on any sony products, as my material recorded with my XL1 plays back distorted on both of my Sony products (a mini DV player and a 950 camera.)

March 9th, 2007, 12:11 PM	#2
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	I use a jvc camera, a cheapie I bought off ebay for $100. I use the firewire connection and it works just fine. __________________ Mark www.sharkvp.com

March 9th, 2007, 12:34 PM	#3
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	spent all my $$$ on the camera and FC Studio...I play back on the XL1s...no other option...I would love a dedicated deck if someone wanted to donate one ;) __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

March 9th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#4
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	I've had my XL1s cameras since '01 and '02. I do everything with them after I found out less-expensive decks won't work. A higher-end Sony player handled my tapes fine, but I didn't want to spend $2000+ on a deck. An old-timer on this board (that would be ol' Jeff Donald ;) once told me I'd be ready for new cameras by the time I wore out the heads on mine. So far, he's been right. __________________ Lorinda

March 9th, 2007, 08:39 PM	#5
Don DesJardin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 255	I purchased a Panasonic AG-DV1000 VTR 4 years ago, and it has been rock solid since then. I looked online and they are still going for between $1,100 and $1,200. I have seen them on Ebay, but not that often. __________________ Don DesJardin

March 10th, 2007, 06:59 AM	#6
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	For playback and capture I use a Sony DHR-1000 and occasionally a SOny GV-D300. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

March 10th, 2007, 06:30 PM	#7
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Using my XL1s, I have been successful with a Sony DSR-11 and UNSUCCESSFUL with a JVC DV3000. The audio track suffered. This unit is theoretically a twin of a Panasonic model. Best I could tell when talking to the Full Compass tech person is that the error correction algorithms in the JVC just weren't doing well with the data that was "out of spec" from my XL1s. That is, the data coming off the tape wasn't perfect. My camera had been into Canon and so... Anyway, the Sony DSR-11 handles it as does my trusty Sony TRV-900. But, my good ole Canon Optura Pi did not and neither did my JVC SR-VS30 "Professional" deck. I am not pointing fingers at JVC. I just won't buy them anymore as they aren't compatible with my XL1s.

March 11th, 2007, 10:26 AM	#8
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	I play back on a Canon ZR-40, which can't cost more than $100 on eBay these days... __________________ Barry Gribble Integral Arts, IMDB

March 13th, 2007, 10:29 AM	#9
Seth Kanne New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 7	I've had my XL1s since 2003 and have used it to playback/capture extensively...All good so far.

March 13th, 2007, 01:48 PM	#10
Jon Pavli Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 81	I too use the Canon ZR-40 camera for capturing. As said with the earlier post, they can be had for a pretty good price. IMHO, much cheaper that sending the Canon XL camera off to the Factory Service Center for repair. Even though I just did that for my Canon XL camera and the typical $400+ bill. I found my Canon ZR-40 off of craigslist. Keep searching and you'll find something similar to use. Cheers, Jon

March 13th, 2007, 08:13 PM	#11
Jeffrey Butler Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virgina, USA Posts: 276	DSR-11, no question. I use the DRS-11. Matter of taste, though, I suppose. With the deck, you can still use the camera - either on a shoot or capturing on a second computer. Lots of reasons to get a deck; speed, versatility...but it's optional. You probably will want a new camera before you use the heads up, but if you do use a deck, you (should) get more for it b/c you'll have a ton less head hours... __________________ Jeff Butler Butler Films

March 15th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#13
Jon Pavli Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 81	I don't have any information about the ZR-40 working it FCP, however, I would think it would have no problem. Mac's use firewire, right? ZR-40 has 4-pin firewire connector, so I think they should work together! Good luck. Cheers, Jon

April 2nd, 2007, 03:36 PM	#14
Andrew Paul Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 130	I bought a cheap faulty canon camera off ebay with firewire for £15. The lens did not work so you couldn`t use it to record via the lense but you can record on it via the firewire. Does the job as a deck perfectly. Quality of capture and record is perfect. __________________ Dont blame the weather....improvise !

April 3rd, 2007, 02:58 PM	#15
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	Bought my XL1 1998 / Shot 13x 26 min episodes and 6 x 54 min episodes for TV broadcast. 44 Music videos / 73 corporate productions and some normal thread of the mill stuff to keep the pot cooking and pay the bills. I've used the camera from day one as a deck / Zero - problems. I nearly sold it to help pay the upgrade to the XLH1. Although I needed the money I decided against it and kind of framed it in my studio as part of my soul. Herman.