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Jonathan Grant · June 26th, 2006, 12:16 PM

I have two c1000 akg mikes connected to the XLR connections in the back but the output is incredibly low. What's the deal? I've tried everything! All the levels are all the way up and the mics are really hot anyway.

Do we have to have a preamp or something?

Greg Boston · June 26th, 2006, 12:37 PM

Yes, there is no phantom power supplied by the MA-100 adapter XLR inputs. The little power plug on the MA-100 powers the built in pre-amp. I saw in another thread that you have a couple XL-2 cameras. The XL-2 does supply phantom power from the XLR jacks so you might want to switch cameras.

-gb-

Don Palomaki · June 26th, 2006, 04:04 PM

Is this the AKG C1000S with a 9 volt battery options? If so I presume your are using fresh batteries.

Are you using a MA-100 or other XLR adapter? If the MA-100, is it powered by the camcorder? And connected to teh Audfio 1 input jack?

Have you set the Audio 1 input sensitivity to MIC or MIC ATT level from the menu? (The default setting onthe XL1 is Line Level.)

Jonathan Grant · June 26th, 2006, 07:30 PM

Yes, fresh batteries and yes into audio 1, yes on the mic att (tried it both ways). Not sure what the adapter is but we ALSO tried using a cord that goes from XLR to the audio 1 input format (whatever that is) but that didn't work either.

I'm really confused. I've tried these mics on another XL1 and it had the same problem.

Don Palomaki · June 27th, 2006, 03:54 AM

Based on the published specs, the AKG C1000 should work with the XL1, provided you hava a suitable XLR adapter.

Can you describe in great detail exactly how you are connecting it to the XL1 and what all the XL1 settings are?

What was the source of the adapter cable you used?

Jonathan Grant · June 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM

all I know is that it's a canon accessory. It came with teh camera when he got it off ebay

Don Palomaki · June 29th, 2006, 04:35 AM

Do other mics work OK with the Canon and adapter you are using?
Do the AKGs work OK with a PA system that does not provide phantom power?

Sounds like they are your mics and someone elses camcorder.

Jonathan Grant · July 2nd, 2006, 05:46 PM

THat's right they are my mics and they work fine I use them for everything. We haven't tried any other mics on his XLR adapter as we have no other mics.

Don Palomaki · July 5th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Try with another known, good mic, and see what the results are. If the camera audio works otherwise, likely either a problem with the adapter, or the setup.

Les Wilson · July 6th, 2006, 11:04 AM

Grasping at straws...is the 3.5mm plug from the XLR adapter plugged into the Xl1 power jack that's next to the audio 1 jacks on the camera's handle?

Don Palomaki · July 6th, 2006, 04:42 PM

Actually, it is a 2.5 MM sub-mini phone plug on the MA-100 and XL1. It is the +5 VDC source to power the MA-100 (or MA-200). And the RCA leads must also be connected to the same XL1 for the MA-100 to be powered.

June 26th, 2006, 12:16 PM	#1
Jonathan Grant Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: norman, OK Posts: 111	external mics I have two c1000 akg mikes connected to the XLR connections in the back but the output is incredibly low. What's the deal? I've tried everything! All the levels are all the way up and the mics are really hot anyway. Do we have to have a preamp or something?

June 26th, 2006, 04:04 PM	#3
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Is this the AKG C1000S with a 9 volt battery options? If so I presume your are using fresh batteries. Are you using a MA-100 or other XLR adapter? If the MA-100, is it powered by the camcorder? And connected to teh Audfio 1 input jack? Have you set the Audio 1 input sensitivity to MIC or MIC ATT level from the menu? (The default setting onthe XL1 is Line Level.) __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 27th, 2006, 03:54 AM	#5
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Based on the published specs, the AKG C1000 should work with the XL1, provided you hava a suitable XLR adapter. Can you describe in great detail exactly how you are connecting it to the XL1 and what all the XL1 settings are? What was the source of the adapter cable you used? __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 29th, 2006, 04:35 AM	#7
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Do other mics work OK with the Canon and adapter you are using? Do the AKGs work OK with a PA system that does not provide phantom power? Sounds like they are your mics and someone elses camcorder. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

July 5th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#9
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Try with another known, good mic, and see what the results are. If the camera audio works otherwise, likely either a problem with the adapter, or the setup. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 26th, 2006, 12:37 PM	#2
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Yes, there is no phantom power supplied by the MA-100 adapter XLR inputs. The little power plug on the MA-100 powers the built in pre-amp. I saw in another thread that you have a couple XL-2 cameras. The XL-2 does supply phantom power from the XLR jacks so you might want to switch cameras. -gb-

June 26th, 2006, 07:30 PM	#4
Jonathan Grant Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: norman, OK Posts: 111	Yes, fresh batteries and yes into audio 1, yes on the mic att (tried it both ways). Not sure what the adapter is but we ALSO tried using a cord that goes from XLR to the audio 1 input format (whatever that is) but that didn't work either. I'm really confused. I've tried these mics on another XL1 and it had the same problem.

June 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM	#6
Jonathan Grant Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: norman, OK Posts: 111	all I know is that it's a canon accessory. It came with teh camera when he got it off ebay

July 2nd, 2006, 05:46 PM	#8
Jonathan Grant Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: norman, OK Posts: 111	THat's right they are my mics and they work fine I use them for everything. We haven't tried any other mics on his XLR adapter as we have no other mics.

July 6th, 2006, 11:04 AM	#10
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Grasping at straws...is the 3.5mm plug from the XLR adapter plugged into the Xl1 power jack that's next to the audio 1 jacks on the camera's handle?

July 6th, 2006, 04:42 PM	#11
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Actually, it is a 2.5 MM sub-mini phone plug on the MA-100 and XL1. It is the +5 VDC source to power the MA-100 (or MA-200). And the RCA leads must also be connected to the same XL1 for the MA-100 to be powered. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com