XL1s IMAGE QUALITY at DVinfo.net

Amr Toukhy · February 16th, 2003, 05:23 PM

Dear All,

I have my XL1s on -3 db for grain, and shuter for 50, and the iris at the full, and not on the frame mode, but the image is grainy,

I wonder if anyone can post IMAGE samples, of there cameras, or samples of work that have been done with the XL1s.

P.s. can i do chrome keying with the XL1s.

Thank you all in advance,

Amr Toukhy

Jeff Donald · February 16th, 2003, 05:42 PM

If you can post examples of your scenes (still images are fine) it would be easier to help your image and grain questions. If you don't have a method of posting them, email them to me and I can post your still images.

Rob Lohman · February 17th, 2003, 10:39 AM

With this little information it is very difficult to help you. Were
you shooting during the day or night? Was there enough light?
Did you leave your ND filter engaged per accident?

Amr Toukhy · February 17th, 2003, 10:54 AM

Hi Jeff & Rob

Thank you guys very much for your reply,
i wonder if i can get your e-mails :)

Thanks,
i'll send them right now to Rob

Regards,
Amr

Rob Lohman · February 17th, 2003, 11:15 AM

If you click on Jeff's e-mail link button you will see his e-mail is
jtdonald@mac.com

Rob Lohman · February 17th, 2003, 11:20 AM

Personally I think your images look fine! You will always have some
bit of grain (or electronic noise) in the picture. It might be that
it was a bit dark in the room (that is a bit hard to tell because
you obviously try to get a picture well lit). The darker it gets the
more difficult it becomes for a camera to capture the images and
to keep the noise down.

Lets wait and see what Jeff thinks of them!

Nathan Gifford · February 17th, 2003, 11:33 AM

One other question, are you trying to use them as digital stills? If so, I doubt there is one cam out there in either PAL or NTSC that can produce stills of the quality a multi-megapixel still cam can.

Amr Toukhy · February 17th, 2003, 03:32 PM

Hey Guys,

I have a DVStorm video card, that i see a monitor out preview of the video, and when i do that, i get the actual noise 'am talking about :)

Thansk really :)

p.s. i'll send Jeff the mail right now :) thanks

Amr Toukhy · February 17th, 2003, 03:35 PM

Another question i was wondering about, if anyone knows TV ads i can see on-line that where shot with the XL1s ..!!

Dylan Couper · February 17th, 2003, 03:58 PM

Amr, I think if you look under the DV FOR THE MASSES forum here, you will find at least one TV commercial that has been shot on an XL1 by a forum member.

Jeff Donald · February 17th, 2003, 08:26 PM

If any one wants to view the images they can be downloaded here. they are labeled clip0001 and clip0002. I'm sure Amr would appreciate any comments.

I think they look like average low light level shots. The noise (grain) that is present is not objectionable in my opinion. I think some of the softness is from the aperture being wide open. You might also want to try set the gain to 0db and re-shooting the scene and see if you like those results better.

Amr Toukhy · February 18th, 2003, 05:21 AM

Thanks Jeff

Thais is really amazing what you r doing for me guys, :)

Thank you all really,

Regards,
Amr

February 16th, 2003, 05:23 PM	#1
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	XL1s IMAGE QUALITY Dear All, I have my XL1s on -3 db for grain, and shuter for 50, and the iris at the full, and not on the frame mode, but the image is grainy, I wonder if anyone can post IMAGE samples, of there cameras, or samples of work that have been done with the XL1s. P.s. can i do chrome keying with the XL1s. Thank you all in advance, Amr Toukhy

February 16th, 2003, 05:42 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If you can post examples of your scenes (still images are fine) it would be easier to help your image and grain questions. If you don't have a method of posting them, email them to me and I can post your still images. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 17th, 2003, 10:39 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	With this little information it is very difficult to help you. Were you shooting during the day or night? Was there enough light? Did you leave your ND filter engaged per accident? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 17th, 2003, 11:15 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	If you click on Jeff's e-mail link button you will see his e-mail is jtdonald@mac.com __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 17th, 2003, 11:20 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Personally I think your images look fine! You will always have some bit of grain (or electronic noise) in the picture. It might be that it was a bit dark in the room (that is a bit hard to tell because you obviously try to get a picture well lit). The darker it gets the more difficult it becomes for a camera to capture the images and to keep the noise down. Lets wait and see what Jeff thinks of them! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 17th, 2003, 10:54 AM	#4
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	Hi Jeff & Rob Thank you guys very much for your reply, i wonder if i can get your e-mails :) Thanks, i'll send them right now to Rob Regards, Amr

February 17th, 2003, 11:33 AM	#7
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	One other question, are you trying to use them as digital stills? If so, I doubt there is one cam out there in either PAL or NTSC that can produce stills of the quality a multi-megapixel still cam can. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

February 17th, 2003, 03:32 PM	#8
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	Hey Guys, I have a DVStorm video card, that i see a monitor out preview of the video, and when i do that, i get the actual noise 'am talking about :) Thansk really :) p.s. i'll send Jeff the mail right now :) thanks

February 17th, 2003, 03:35 PM	#9
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	Another question i was wondering about, if anyone knows TV ads i can see on-line that where shot with the XL1s ..!!

February 17th, 2003, 03:58 PM	#10
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Amr, I think if you look under the DV FOR THE MASSES forum here, you will find at least one TV commercial that has been shot on an XL1 by a forum member.

February 17th, 2003, 08:26 PM	#11
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	If any one wants to view the images they can be downloaded here. they are labeled clip0001 and clip0002. I'm sure Amr would appreciate any comments. I think they look like average low light level shots. The noise (grain) that is present is not objectionable in my opinion. I think some of the softness is from the aperture being wide open. You might also want to try set the gain to 0db and re-shooting the scene and see if you like those results better. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 18th, 2003, 05:21 AM	#12
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	Thanks Jeff Thais is really amazing what you r doing for me guys, :) Thank you all really, Regards, Amr