Should I buy this Xl-1? at DVinfo.net

Sharon Fraats · April 6th, 2006, 12:30 PM

Hey Guys! I haven’t been here in a while jumped out of filming for other reasons yet I am back to buy a camera. A guy has an XL-1 PAL for 700 the camera looks all right. Yet I want to know is am I getting in over my head? It's PAL and my monitor is NTSC as well as the price I think that it being so old it should come down a little. Yet on Ebay there are cameras all higher that this one and he says that is why he is selling it so high.

So what's a woman to do???

Could use some help here on this one.

Thanks in advance.

Mark Bournes · April 6th, 2006, 02:02 PM

Well if you live in the US, you don't want a PAL version. You want the NTSC version. The pal version wont playback on US systems.

Andrew Todd · April 6th, 2006, 02:04 PM

whats the price?

Sharon Fraats · April 6th, 2006, 02:19 PM

He is asking 700

By the way thanks for answering

On a post in the GL-1 area the topic was about the GL-1 PAL version and it’s recording the film look. Now this was before the DVX-100a and it wasn't really recording the film look it's just when you recorded it in Pal then edited in PAL then did an export out in NTSC you got a cool like film look that's one reason I was thinking of buying it. Yet does one get more problems with the conversions of this process?

Mark Bournes · April 6th, 2006, 03:30 PM

Yes it will. It's not worth the hassle, buy the NTSC version.

Chris Luker · April 6th, 2006, 04:58 PM

I would be interested in it at that price if it has a lens and viewfinder. I do stuff in France every so often and would love to go native pal.

Sharon Fraats · April 6th, 2006, 10:57 PM

It does have a lens yet no viewfinder thats the bummer.....

I do like the look that it films though

Thank you all for your ideas and thoughts really.

Chris Hurd · April 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM

The price might sound attractive, but consider how old it is (its technology is nine years old, and that model was discontinued more than five years ago). Plus you have no idea what shape the heads are in and no way to find out how many hours are on them. It'll need a trip to Canon service to get checked out, cleaned and whatever updates are due, and that's another $250. Plus, no viewfinder, and you'll have to transcode from PAL to NTSC just to see what you've recorded... either that or buy a PAL monitor and carry it around. Frankly I would pass. Find yourself a used GL2 or DVX100.

Sharon Fraats · April 7th, 2006, 11:12 AM

Chris hearing this one from you and I do mean from you personally I think I'll pass on this one.

Thank you for taking the time on this posting and giving your advice.

In the words of Snuffy Smith "Nuff Said"

Chris Hurd · April 7th, 2006, 10:56 PM

You're doing the right thing, Sharon. This guy will find a buyer on Ebay.

April 6th, 2006, 12:30 PM	#1
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	Should I buy this Xl-1? Hey Guys! I haven’t been here in a while jumped out of filming for other reasons yet I am back to buy a camera. A guy has an XL-1 PAL for 700 the camera looks all right. Yet I want to know is am I getting in over my head? It's PAL and my monitor is NTSC as well as the price I think that it being so old it should come down a little. Yet on Ebay there are cameras all higher that this one and he says that is why he is selling it so high. So what's a woman to do??? Could use some help here on this one. Thanks in advance.

April 6th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#3
Andrew Todd Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saint John, CANADA Posts: 633	whats the price? __________________ video : xl2 / letus35xl / bogen 503 photo- canon 1dmkII - bronica etrsi

April 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The price might sound attractive, but consider how old it is (its technology is nine years old, and that model was discontinued more than five years ago). Plus you have no idea what shape the heads are in and no way to find out how many hours are on them. It'll need a trip to Canon service to get checked out, cleaned and whatever updates are due, and that's another $250. Plus, no viewfinder, and you'll have to transcode from PAL to NTSC just to see what you've recorded... either that or buy a PAL monitor and carry it around. Frankly I would pass. Find yourself a used GL2 or DVX100. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 7th, 2006, 10:56 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	You're doing the right thing, Sharon. This guy will find a buyer on Ebay. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 6th, 2006, 02:02 PM	#2
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	Well if you live in the US, you don't want a PAL version. You want the NTSC version. The pal version wont playback on US systems.

April 6th, 2006, 02:19 PM	#4
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	He is asking 700 By the way thanks for answering On a post in the GL-1 area the topic was about the GL-1 PAL version and it’s recording the film look. Now this was before the DVX-100a and it wasn't really recording the film look it's just when you recorded it in Pal then edited in PAL then did an export out in NTSC you got a cool like film look that's one reason I was thinking of buying it. Yet does one get more problems with the conversions of this process?

April 6th, 2006, 03:30 PM	#5
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	Yes it will. It's not worth the hassle, buy the NTSC version.

April 6th, 2006, 04:58 PM	#6
Chris Luker Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Woods Cross, Utah Posts: 310	I would be interested in it at that price if it has a lens and viewfinder. I do stuff in France every so often and would love to go native pal.

April 6th, 2006, 10:57 PM	#7
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	It does have a lens yet no viewfinder thats the bummer..... I do like the look that it films though Thank you all for your ideas and thoughts really.

April 7th, 2006, 11:12 AM	#9
Sharon Fraats Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago, ill Posts: 190	Chris hearing this one from you and I do mean from you personally I think I'll pass on this one. Thank you for taking the time on this posting and giving your advice. In the words of Snuffy Smith "Nuff Said"