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Matt Betea · January 2nd, 2003, 02:53 AM

hello,

sorry if any of these questions are really dumb, but...
for narrative/dramatic movie making i'm getting the idea that an onboard mic for ambient sound and a boomed mic for dialogue/talent is the way to go? i was thinking there would be two choices to set this up, them being:

1. using a mixer or some adapter convert the onboard mic to mono, then using the ma100 have the boomed mic going to that to get 16bit 2 ch.
or
2. get 2 mono mics and run them both off of the ma100?

my plan is to get the me66/k6 combo and the ma100. the part i'm unsure of is if the onboard mic is good enough for an ambient mic or get a 2nd mic (something cheaper than the me66 but a bit better than the onboard) and run them both from the ma100?

these are the first of, i'm sure, many questions regarding audio i'll have. any help would be great and appreciate the time and effort of anyone helping out. thanks.

matt

Don Palomaki · January 2nd, 2003, 05:16 AM

Either way will work. The onboard mic is good for a camcorder mic in this price range, and many folks find the results acceptable for ambinet sound.

I have not read of any commercial stereo-mono adapters for the onboard mic, but one would be elatively easy to make from components (plugs, jacks, some wire). Just be sure to provide power fromthe camcorder to the onbord mic (the smaller jack/plug).

Also, be aware that because the Audio 1 levels controls are a ganged level and a balance control, riding levels can be a bit tricky.

Hmmm, wonder if anyone has looked into a mod to make the Audio 1 controls individual channel level controls rather than the current level/balancee combination.?

Matt Betea · January 2nd, 2003, 04:36 PM

thanks for the info Don. doesn't radio shack sell little wiring kits or do they just have the components? i remember now back on another forum people talking about converting mics on the gL1. i don't know if this makes any sense, but i'll ask. does using a mixer at all with the ma100 make it cut out? i was looking back through this board, but wasn't clear if it's using a mixer in conjunction with the ma100 or hooking it up to the ma100. thanks again for your help. really appreciate it :)

matt

Don Palomaki · January 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM

Radio Shack does sell components, and some pre-made cables, but stock varies with the store you visit and I've not seen all the needed cables at a RS store.

You can send use an external mixer with the MA-100, just be sure to send a mic-level output to the MA-100. If you send line level (e.g., +4 dBU) it will saturate the MA-100's internal amp and clip the signal causing significant distortion.

January 2nd, 2003, 02:53 AM	#1
Matt Betea Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: detroit, mi Posts: 187	onboard mic and other mic questions hello, sorry if any of these questions are really dumb, but... for narrative/dramatic movie making i'm getting the idea that an onboard mic for ambient sound and a boomed mic for dialogue/talent is the way to go? i was thinking there would be two choices to set this up, them being: 1. using a mixer or some adapter convert the onboard mic to mono, then using the ma100 have the boomed mic going to that to get 16bit 2 ch. or 2. get 2 mono mics and run them both off of the ma100? my plan is to get the me66/k6 combo and the ma100. the part i'm unsure of is if the onboard mic is good enough for an ambient mic or get a 2nd mic (something cheaper than the me66 but a bit better than the onboard) and run them both from the ma100? these are the first of, i'm sure, many questions regarding audio i'll have. any help would be great and appreciate the time and effort of anyone helping out. thanks. matt __________________ Matrix metering is for girls.

January 2nd, 2003, 04:36 PM	#3
Matt Betea Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: detroit, mi Posts: 187	thanks for the info Don. doesn't radio shack sell little wiring kits or do they just have the components? i remember now back on another forum people talking about converting mics on the gL1. i don't know if this makes any sense, but i'll ask. does using a mixer at all with the ma100 make it cut out? i was looking back through this board, but wasn't clear if it's using a mixer in conjunction with the ma100 or hooking it up to the ma100. thanks again for your help. really appreciate it :) matt __________________ Matrix metering is for girls.

January 2nd, 2003, 05:16 AM	#2
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Either way will work. The onboard mic is good for a camcorder mic in this price range, and many folks find the results acceptable for ambinet sound. I have not read of any commercial stereo-mono adapters for the onboard mic, but one would be elatively easy to make from components (plugs, jacks, some wire). Just be sure to provide power fromthe camcorder to the onbord mic (the smaller jack/plug). Also, be aware that because the Audio 1 levels controls are a ganged level and a balance control, riding levels can be a bit tricky. Hmmm, wonder if anyone has looked into a mod to make the Audio 1 controls individual channel level controls rather than the current level/balancee combination.?

January 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM	#4
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Radio Shack does sell components, and some pre-made cables, but stock varies with the store you visit and I've not seen all the needed cables at a RS store. You can send use an external mixer with the MA-100, just be sure to send a mic-level output to the MA-100. If you send line level (e.g., +4 dBU) it will saturate the MA-100's internal amp and clip the signal causing significant distortion.