partial banding of picture left in camera after removing tape at DVinfo.net

Tony Beazley · November 3rd, 2002, 04:25 PM

After removing the tape and sticking in another tape to view.... the picture from the first tape remained in a banded form over the present picture playing now. I have no idea why.

Tony B

Jeff Donald · November 3rd, 2002, 04:50 PM

What camera (XL1 or XL1S), how are you viewing the images? Can you describe what your seeing in a little more detail? Are you saying it is like a double exposed image?

Jeff

Vic Owen · November 3rd, 2002, 11:48 PM

I've seen this phenomena before.....as I recall, some of the old video was displayed in horizontal bands, interlaced with new stuff. The old stuff apparently came out of some kind of memory.

In my case, I had mistracking problems. Several others have had similar problems. The first trip to the factory was for alignment. The final fix was getting a new drum installed by Canon.

Andre De Clercq · November 4th, 2002, 05:02 AM

If you see 5 or 6 bands, one of the (two) heads is clogged. Changed tape brand?

Vic Owen · November 4th, 2002, 02:56 PM

There is a lot of evidence that the brands of tape have something to do with it, particularly mixing them, as has been documented many times on these boards. Best to pick one and stay with, it my opinon.

There has also been some history about bad heads, as well. A cleaning/realignment by the factory might do it, but I'd be prepared to spring for the drum replacement. It took me three round trips to finally get it fixed.

Now, if we could just eliminate those pesky, random drop-outs.....

Jacques Mersereau · November 4th, 2002, 04:02 PM

I heard that Sony is coming out with a new MiniDV tape that has
some kind of super hard formula. 75% less drop outs is the
claim. Let's hope it doesn't cost 200% more.

When I read about it again, I will post in the news and events section.

Tony Beazley · November 11th, 2002, 09:47 PM

Vic hit it on the head.It's my friends camera xl1 no s and he has changed tape brands back and forth from sony to panasonic. I'm sending him your replies. Maybe its still under warranty.

Thanks guys
Tony B

November 3rd, 2002, 04:25 PM	#1
Tony Beazley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 20	partial banding of picture left in camera after removing tape After removing the tape and sticking in another tape to view.... the picture from the first tape remained in a banded form over the present picture playing now. I have no idea why. Tony B

November 3rd, 2002, 11:48 PM	#3
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	I've seen this phenomena before.....as I recall, some of the old video was displayed in horizontal bands, interlaced with new stuff. The old stuff apparently came out of some kind of memory. In my case, I had mistracking problems. Several others have had similar problems. The first trip to the factory was for alignment. The final fix was getting a new drum installed by Canon. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 4th, 2002, 02:56 PM	#5
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	There is a lot of evidence that the brands of tape have something to do with it, particularly mixing them, as has been documented many times on these boards. Best to pick one and stay with, it my opinon. There has also been some history about bad heads, as well. A cleaning/realignment by the factory might do it, but I'd be prepared to spring for the drum replacement. It took me three round trips to finally get it fixed. Now, if we could just eliminate those pesky, random drop-outs..... __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 4th, 2002, 04:02 PM	#6
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	I heard that Sony is coming out with a new MiniDV tape that has some kind of super hard formula. 75% less drop outs is the claim. Let's hope it doesn't cost 200% more. When I read about it again, I will post in the news and events section. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

November 3rd, 2002, 04:50 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What camera (XL1 or XL1S), how are you viewing the images? Can you describe what your seeing in a little more detail? Are you saying it is like a double exposed image? Jeff

November 4th, 2002, 05:02 AM	#4
Andre De Clercq Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 804	If you see 5 or 6 bands, one of the (two) heads is clogged. Changed tape brand?

November 11th, 2002, 09:47 PM	#7
Tony Beazley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 20	Vic hit it on the head.It's my friends camera xl1 no s and he has changed tape brands back and forth from sony to panasonic. I'm sending him your replies. Maybe its still under warranty. Thanks guys Tony B