Aspect Ratio?? at DVinfo.net

Aletha Jones · May 26th, 2005, 12:42 PM

If I may jump in asking for more clarity on the issue of shooting in 4:3 for a 16:9 aspect ratio by blocking off some of the viewfinder. Does this way actually result in a viable 16:9 framing? I mean, is the purpose because when you pan and scan you will not loose important information framed for 16:9? It's not just for the look of letterboxing is it? I would like to shoot 16:9 in the event that what I shoot will be inspired enough to be viewed by a theatrical audience and not just for TV or direct to video. Forgive my lack of expertise. I am glad to belong to this community that grows my knowledge and understanding. Thanks for allowing the question.

Aletha

Chris Hurd · May 26th, 2005, 01:47 PM

Hi Aletha,

What you'd want to do is to set the XL2 for 16:9 recording using the aspect ratio switch on the left side of the camera body. There's really no reason to mask off the viewfinder or any of that other stuff -- the aspect ratio switch on the camera body is indeed the best way to go. Hope this helps,

Aletha Jones · May 26th, 2005, 01:53 PM

Hi Chris:

I'm sorry I failed to mention that I am working with an XL1 and not XL2. And thanks for a speedy reply.

Aletha

Chris Hurd · May 26th, 2005, 01:56 PM

Oh, well you're in the wrong forum then.

I'll split these posts off and place them in our XL1 / XL1S forum.

Chris Hurd · May 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM

For 16:9 in the XL1 you could add an anamorphic adapter to the lens, but it's fairly expensive to do so, upwards of $800. Some folks will mask off the viewfinder and "shoot and protect," meaning they're shooting in 4:3 but composing for 16:9 and adding a letterbox matte in postproduction.

Aletha Jones · May 30th, 2005, 12:04 AM

Hi Chris:

I failed to say thank-you for this reply. Thanks I wanted, to compose 16:9 and maintain the highest resolution possible. How would you exactly mask the viewfinder to direct the correct view to compose 16:9. Top, bottom or otherwise. I see your name alot, so I know you have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again.

Aletha

Chris Hurd · May 30th, 2005, 07:20 AM

Hi Aletha,

Actually the wealth of knowledge here comes from our other helpful DV Info Net members such as Don Palomaki, Dean Sensui and A.J. deLange. Personally I've never masked an XL1 viewfinder, but I'm sure our other members who have will step up and offer some tips on how best to do that.

Djee Smit · June 1st, 2005, 01:00 PM

Do you have an XL1 or an Xl1s? in the xl1 you can change in the menu on the side of the cam the ratio to 16:9, but your view in the viewfinder doesn't give you the right view. It lookes stretched out. In the XL1s you can do this too, go to menu and i believe in cam setting change the ratio to 16:9 or you can leave it on 4:3 and add in the menu (i can't recall the name of the sub menu) the 16:9 lines, which means you can shoot in 4:3 but frame in 16:9. This also doesn't change the view to a stretched view, if you know what I mean.

I hope this helps and succes

Mathieu Ghekiere · June 1st, 2005, 01:42 PM

Djee is right, and the good thing about this is that it is much more easy to frame your picture in a normal 4/3 image with 16/9 guides, then to frame your picture in a viewfinder with a stretched image.

Good luck.

Aletha Jones · June 1st, 2005, 02:52 PM

Djee and Mathieu:

Thanks for the info. I have the first model for the XL1 so I don't get a submenu giving me quides, only the option to shoot 16:9 with a stretched view in the viewfinder. Keep the advice coming, I suck it up like a sponge.

Thanks

Aletha

May 26th, 2005, 12:42 PM	#1
Aletha Jones Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	More questions on Aspect ratio If I may jump in asking for more clarity on the issue of shooting in 4:3 for a 16:9 aspect ratio by blocking off some of the viewfinder. Does this way actually result in a viable 16:9 framing? I mean, is the purpose because when you pan and scan you will not loose important information framed for 16:9? It's not just for the look of letterboxing is it? I would like to shoot 16:9 in the event that what I shoot will be inspired enough to be viewed by a theatrical audience and not just for TV or direct to video. Forgive my lack of expertise. I am glad to belong to this community that grows my knowledge and understanding. Thanks for allowing the question. Aletha

May 26th, 2005, 01:47 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Aletha, What you'd want to do is to set the XL2 for 16:9 recording using the aspect ratio switch on the left side of the camera body. There's really no reason to mask off the viewfinder or any of that other stuff -- the aspect ratio switch on the camera body is indeed the best way to go. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 26th, 2005, 01:56 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Oh, well you're in the wrong forum then. I'll split these posts off and place them in our XL1 / XL1S forum. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 26th, 2005, 02:00 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	For 16:9 in the XL1 you could add an anamorphic adapter to the lens, but it's fairly expensive to do so, upwards of $800. Some folks will mask off the viewfinder and "shoot and protect," meaning they're shooting in 4:3 but composing for 16:9 and adding a letterbox matte in postproduction. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 30th, 2005, 12:04 AM	#6
Aletha Jones Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Thanks Hi Chris: I failed to say thank-you for this reply. Thanks I wanted, to compose 16:9 and maintain the highest resolution possible. How would you exactly mask the viewfinder to direct the correct view to compose 16:9. Top, bottom or otherwise. I see your name alot, so I know you have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again. Aletha

May 26th, 2005, 01:53 PM	#3
Aletha Jones Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Hi Chris: I'm sorry I failed to mention that I am working with an XL1 and not XL2. And thanks for a speedy reply. Aletha

May 30th, 2005, 07:20 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Aletha, Actually the wealth of knowledge here comes from our other helpful DV Info Net members such as Don Palomaki, Dean Sensui and A.J. deLange. Personally I've never masked an XL1 viewfinder, but I'm sure our other members who have will step up and offer some tips on how best to do that. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 1st, 2005, 01:00 PM	#8
Djee Smit Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 141	Do you have an XL1 or an Xl1s? in the xl1 you can change in the menu on the side of the cam the ratio to 16:9, but your view in the viewfinder doesn't give you the right view. It lookes stretched out. In the XL1s you can do this too, go to menu and i believe in cam setting change the ratio to 16:9 or you can leave it on 4:3 and add in the menu (i can't recall the name of the sub menu) the 16:9 lines, which means you can shoot in 4:3 but frame in 16:9. This also doesn't change the view to a stretched view, if you know what I mean. I hope this helps and succes

June 1st, 2005, 01:42 PM	#9
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Djee is right, and the good thing about this is that it is much more easy to frame your picture in a normal 4/3 image with 16/9 guides, then to frame your picture in a viewfinder with a stretched image. Good luck.

June 1st, 2005, 02:52 PM	#10
Aletha Jones Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Djee and Mathieu: Thanks for the info. I have the first model for the XL1 so I don't get a submenu giving me quides, only the option to shoot 16:9 with a stretched view in the viewfinder. Keep the advice coming, I suck it up like a sponge. Thanks Aletha