Canon 3x wide angle lens questions

John Locke · January 3rd, 2004, 12:23 PM

Bob,

I tend to use the 3X lens more than the 16X. I definitely recommend it.

Rick Bravo · January 4th, 2004, 10:27 PM

3X is a must have for the XL series.

RB

Bob Safay · January 7th, 2004, 05:44 PM

OK, I picked it up last night. You guys were right. It sure is a nice hunk of glass. Thanks for the input. Bob

Rafal Krolik · January 9th, 2004, 11:16 AM

Bob, can you recommend the place you bought it from? I am looking for one but the brand new retail price is a bit hard to swallow if you can get an honest deal on a used one.

Bob Safay · January 9th, 2004, 04:27 PM

Rafal, it is a camera shop in Atlanta called Showcase. I have been dealing with them for 14 years. Excellant reputation. This is the first 3X that I have seen there. They usually do not handle used equipment much that was why I was so surprized. I will keep a look out in the Atlanta area for you. Bob

Rafal Krolik · January 9th, 2004, 04:53 PM

Thanks a lot Bob. Don't worry though, being the obsessive compulsive type ( this is my wife's opinion ) I will probably get it from BH ( USING LINK FROM THIS SITE :-) ).
Thanks again for your answer.

Andreas Fernbrant · January 27th, 2004, 05:58 AM

I'm about to buy a fisheye for my lens from Century Optics. But they have 2 diffrent kinds. One for the 3X and one for the 16x lens. I emailed them and asked if it was the same fisheye. They said the fisheye for the 3X would fit both. What I can't figre ut is how a bayonet monted fisheye can fith on both, the 3X and 16x lens if you buy the 3X version. But only fits the 16x if you buy the 16x.

So I wonder, for those of you that have both these lenses, are the mount any diffrent on the 3X? (lens shade) from the bayonet mount on the 16x?

Adrian Douglas · January 27th, 2004, 07:07 AM

They should both physically fit on each lens. I think what they are refering to is that if you put the fisheye for the 16x lens on the 3x you will get vignetting due to the 3x lens's wider angle of view. I've seen the 3x hood on a 16x lens, why I don't know, but it was on there.

Ken Tanaka · January 27th, 2004, 11:48 AM

All of the Canon XL lenses share the same accessory thread diameter: 72mm. So I suspect that Century meant that you will be able to mount their lens on either lens.

Given the extreme wide-angle nature of a fish-eye lens I doubt that you will be using a hood at all with this accessory mountd on either lens.

Andreas Fernbrant · January 27th, 2004, 12:14 PM

So if I understand correct,

1. Bayonet mount is when you use the mount where you usually mount your lenshood. The fisheye use a bayonet mounting system so it should fit where the lenshood usually goes? Pretty logical.

2. Both the 3X and 16x could share the same lenshood?

I can't figure out why they should have one for the 16x and one for the 3x as they list on their homepage. When I emailed and asked them, they said the one for the 3X would fith both lenses but it seems that one for the 16x won't go on to the 3X.

So that's why I'm confused, because if the lenshood mount is the same on both leneses there would be no problem.

Chris Hurd · January 27th, 2004, 01:13 PM

Due to the wide field of view on the 3x, you would see the edges of the 16x lens hood in frame if you used it on the 3x. That's why they're telling you not to do it -- and that's why the 3x lens hood has such an exotic tulip shape. Hope this helps,

Don Libby · January 31st, 2004, 09:39 AM

I just ordered a used 3x from B&H for 899. While not in the same price as $600 it's still cheaper than full new price of $1,200 and I trust B&H. Go to the web site and see for your self

Jack Xiong · February 21st, 2004, 04:12 PM

what are some of the situations where you would use a Canon 3X lens?

Rafal Krolik · February 21st, 2004, 04:23 PM

Jack, 3x is a wide angle lens so it would be good for situation where you need to grab a little more in the frame without having to luxury of distance. Plus I am sure there are a whole bunch of other creative situations.

Don Palomaki · February 22nd, 2004, 06:37 AM

Some situations:
Indoor birthday party
First dance
Small room
Wide shot of ball game

January 3rd, 2004, 12:23 PM	#106
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Bob, I tend to use the 3X lens more than the 16X. I definitely recommend it. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

January 4th, 2004, 10:27 PM	#107
Rick Bravo Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 574	3X is a must have for the XL series. RB __________________ "The future ain't what it used to be." Yogi Berra. www.rbravo.com

January 27th, 2004, 05:58 AM	#112
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	3X and 16X I'm about to buy a fisheye for my lens from Century Optics. But they have 2 diffrent kinds. One for the 3X and one for the 16x lens. I emailed them and asked if it was the same fisheye. They said the fisheye for the 3X would fit both. What I can't figre ut is how a bayonet monted fisheye can fith on both, the 3X and 16x lens if you buy the 3X version. But only fits the 16x if you buy the 16x. So I wonder, for those of you that have both these lenses, are the mount any diffrent on the 3X? (lens shade) from the bayonet mount on the 16x?

January 27th, 2004, 07:07 AM	#113
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	They should both physically fit on each lens. I think what they are refering to is that if you put the fisheye for the 16x lens on the 3x you will get vignetting due to the 3x lens's wider angle of view. I've seen the 3x hood on a 16x lens, why I don't know, but it was on there. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

January 27th, 2004, 11:48 AM	#114
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	All of the Canon XL lenses share the same accessory thread diameter: 72mm. So I suspect that Century meant that you will be able to mount their lens on either lens. Given the extreme wide-angle nature of a fish-eye lens I doubt that you will be using a hood at all with this accessory mountd on either lens. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

January 7th, 2004, 05:44 PM	#108
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	OK, I picked it up last night. You guys were right. It sure is a nice hunk of glass. Thanks for the input. Bob

January 9th, 2004, 11:16 AM	#109
Rafal Krolik Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 160	Bob, can you recommend the place you bought it from? I am looking for one but the brand new retail price is a bit hard to swallow if you can get an honest deal on a used one.

January 9th, 2004, 04:27 PM	#110
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Rafal, it is a camera shop in Atlanta called Showcase. I have been dealing with them for 14 years. Excellant reputation. This is the first 3X that I have seen there. They usually do not handle used equipment much that was why I was so surprized. I will keep a look out in the Atlanta area for you. Bob

January 9th, 2004, 04:53 PM	#111
Rafal Krolik Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 160	Thanks a lot Bob. Don't worry though, being the obsessive compulsive type ( this is my wife's opinion ) I will probably get it from BH ( USING LINK FROM THIS SITE :-) ). Thanks again for your answer.

January 27th, 2004, 12:14 PM	#115
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	So if I understand correct, 1. Bayonet mount is when you use the mount where you usually mount your lenshood. The fisheye use a bayonet mounting system so it should fit where the lenshood usually goes? Pretty logical. 2. Both the 3X and 16x could share the same lenshood? I can't figure out why they should have one for the 16x and one for the 3x as they list on their homepage. When I emailed and asked them, they said the one for the 3X would fith both lenses but it seems that one for the 16x won't go on to the 3X. So that's why I'm confused, because if the lenshood mount is the same on both leneses there would be no problem.

January 27th, 2004, 01:13 PM	#116
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Due to the wide field of view on the 3x, you would see the edges of the 16x lens hood in frame if you used it on the 3x. That's why they're telling you not to do it -- and that's why the 3x lens hood has such an exotic tulip shape. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 31st, 2004, 09:39 AM	#117
Don Libby Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 48	I just ordered a used 3x from B&H for 899. While not in the same price as $600 it's still cheaper than full new price of $1,200 and I trust B&H. Go to the web site and see for your self __________________ Don Libby www.ironcreekphotography.com

February 21st, 2004, 04:12 PM	#118
Jack Xiong New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6	what are some of the situations where you would use a Canon 3X lens?

February 21st, 2004, 04:23 PM	#119
Rafal Krolik Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 160	Jack, 3x is a wide angle lens so it would be good for situation where you need to grab a little more in the frame without having to luxury of distance. Plus I am sure there are a whole bunch of other creative situations.

February 22nd, 2004, 06:37 AM	#120
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Some situations: Indoor birthday party First dance Small room Wide shot of ball game __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com