Canon 3x wide angle lens questions

John Threat · June 24th, 2003, 08:45 AM

If you use the 3x wide, you should think about buying a matte box that holds filters (4x4) to avoid the vignetting that comes with screwing on more than one filter at once.

It will also save you a bit of time when switching lenses as you dont have to risk touching the glass of the lens or the filter by trying to swap them between your lens.

Brad Simmons · June 24th, 2003, 04:52 PM

Regarding this 3x wide angle lens, I was wondering if someone could either post, email me, or point me in the right direction of some frame grabs of the same scene between the 3x and the regular or manual 16x lens.

I'm curious to see just how wide it can get. Thanks.

Ken Tanaka · June 24th, 2003, 06:53 PM

Brad,
As you can see from the spec page the 3x's widest angular coverage is just over 70 deg horizontally by just under 34 deg vertically. This compares to the 16x manual lens' coverage of just under 48 deg horizontally by just under 27 deg vertically.

So it gives you about 46% more horizontal coverage and about 20% more vertical coverage.

Brad Simmons · June 24th, 2003, 11:44 PM

thanks Ken! That helps.

Rob Lohman · July 11th, 2003, 06:18 AM

I have even seen vignetting on my standard 16x lense with two
filters on there at its widest. But I always add black bars so it
isn't a problem for me....

John Threat · July 17th, 2003, 11:19 AM

Dont forget the eletronic zoom ring which prevents you from doing any sort of professional level follow focus.rendering the lens a step up from a toy.

Jeff Donald · July 17th, 2003, 05:08 PM

The DOF is pretty extreme with the 3X. There is not much to try and follow unless the subject is right on top of the lens. I use it with my Glidecam V-8 and it can virtually eliminate the need to worry about focus in some shots.

Jose Noriega · October 3rd, 2003, 10:32 AM

Does anyone know if this lens can be used in a XL1s
Thanks
www.video.com.mx

Jeff Donald · October 3rd, 2003, 10:35 AM

No, these lenses only fit the XL1's predesessor. Sorry.

Chris Hurd · October 3rd, 2003, 10:40 AM

See the article Canon VL Lenses on the XL1? by Don Palomaki.

Jose Noriega · October 3rd, 2003, 12:01 PM

Thank you
www.video.com.mx

Christopher Hughes · October 3rd, 2003, 06:22 PM

Jose. Where did you buy your camera in Mexico? I have been trying to find a good dealer of video equipment in Mexico, but without much luck. I never live near DF so didnt know that area too well to go hunting around for gear. And most seem to be just amateurish stuff and nothing good. Or did you just get yours across the US border and bring it back, or mail order it and pay the tax in the Aduana?

Thanks

Jose Noriega · October 3rd, 2003, 08:03 PM

Christopher
I bought all my stuff on ebay and USA stores
and then send it to my USA Address in merkalink www.merkalink.com
I pay my import taxes around 17% and the shipping to Laredo and then to Mexico (Around $30 US CY for up to $1000 US CY and 2 Kilos

Bob Safay · January 3rd, 2004, 07:50 AM

A question. I have the opportunity to buy a used Canon 3X for $600. This is through a camera shop. I have the Canon 16X II and the 14X manual. I have usually been able to borrow the 3X in the past and know how fine a lens it is. In light of the XL-2 possibly coming out this year would this be a good purchase? Bob

Dylan Couper · January 3rd, 2004, 11:16 AM

$600 seems like a pretty reasonable price. I'd buy it. The XL2 probably won't be available for 6 months at best, and that leaves you lots of time to get good use out of it. Plus you can always sell it. There are probably a hundred thousand XL1 users out there, and they won't disapear when the XL2 comes out.

June 24th, 2003, 06:53 PM	#93
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Brad, As you can see from the spec page the 3x's widest angular coverage is just over 70 deg horizontally by just under 34 deg vertically. This compares to the 16x manual lens' coverage of just under 48 deg horizontally by just under 27 deg vertically. So it gives you about 46% more horizontal coverage and about 20% more vertical coverage. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

July 11th, 2003, 06:18 AM	#95
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I have even seen vignetting on my standard 16x lense with two filters on there at its widest. But I always add black bars so it isn't a problem for me.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 17th, 2003, 05:08 PM	#97
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The DOF is pretty extreme with the 3X. There is not much to try and follow unless the subject is right on top of the lens. I use it with my Glidecam V-8 and it can virtually eliminate the need to worry about focus in some shots. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 3rd, 2003, 10:32 AM	#98
Jose Noriega New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 16	Canon 3X VL Wide Zoom Lens Does anyone know if this lens can be used in a XL1s Thanks www.video.com.mx __________________ Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx

October 3rd, 2003, 10:35 AM	#99
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	No, these lenses only fit the XL1's predesessor. Sorry. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 24th, 2003, 08:45 AM	#91
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	If you use the 3x wide, you should think about buying a matte box that holds filters (4x4) to avoid the vignetting that comes with screwing on more than one filter at once. It will also save you a bit of time when switching lenses as you dont have to risk touching the glass of the lens or the filter by trying to swap them between your lens.

June 24th, 2003, 04:52 PM	#92
Brad Simmons Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington DC Posts: 304	Regarding this 3x wide angle lens, I was wondering if someone could either post, email me, or point me in the right direction of some frame grabs of the same scene between the 3x and the regular or manual 16x lens. I'm curious to see just how wide it can get. Thanks.

June 24th, 2003, 11:44 PM	#94
Brad Simmons Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington DC Posts: 304	thanks Ken! That helps.

July 17th, 2003, 11:19 AM	#96
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	Dont forget the eletronic zoom ring which prevents you from doing any sort of professional level follow focus.rendering the lens a step up from a toy.

October 3rd, 2003, 10:40 AM	#100
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	See the article Canon VL Lenses on the XL1? by Don Palomaki. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 3rd, 2003, 12:01 PM	#101
Jose Noriega New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 16	Thank you www.video.com.mx __________________ Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx

October 3rd, 2003, 06:22 PM	#102
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	Jose. Where did you buy your camera in Mexico? I have been trying to find a good dealer of video equipment in Mexico, but without much luck. I never live near DF so didnt know that area too well to go hunting around for gear. And most seem to be just amateurish stuff and nothing good. Or did you just get yours across the US border and bring it back, or mail order it and pay the tax in the Aduana? Thanks

October 3rd, 2003, 08:03 PM	#103
Jose Noriega New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 16	Christopher I bought all my stuff on ebay and USA stores and then send it to my USA Address in merkalink www.merkalink.com I pay my import taxes around 17% and the shipping to Laredo and then to Mexico (Around $30 US CY for up to $1000 US CY and 2 Kilos __________________ Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx

January 3rd, 2004, 07:50 AM	#104
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	The Canon 3X A question. I have the opportunity to buy a used Canon 3X for $600. This is through a camera shop. I have the Canon 16X II and the 14X manual. I have usually been able to borrow the 3X in the past and know how fine a lens it is. In light of the XL-2 possibly coming out this year would this be a good purchase? Bob

January 3rd, 2004, 11:16 AM	#105
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	$600 seems like a pretty reasonable price. I'd buy it. The XL2 probably won't be available for 6 months at best, and that leaves you lots of time to get good use out of it. Plus you can always sell it. There are probably a hundred thousand XL1 users out there, and they won't disapear when the XL2 comes out. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com