Canon 3x wide angle lens questions

Webb Pickersgill · January 10th, 2006, 01:11 AM

I'm bumping up this *really* old thread because this just happened to me. Now, I ALWAYS power down my camera before changing lenses because I heard the bad things that could happen. So, I don't know what happened this time.

I was in the same situation, I was firing up the camera for the first shot of a full-weekend shoot, and I got a "check lens" warning on screen. After that, I had no zoom, iris, or focus controls. When the camera would power up, I'd be stuck with whatever the auto-iris would pick for that instant, then it became unadjustable. Luckily there was a rental house that had an extra 3x lens available otherwise we would have been screwed. (Filming in a small motel room with just a 20x and 16x lens just wouldn't have worked)

So, I guess I'll be calling a Canon service center tomorrow. @#$%#@!

Bob Safay · January 11th, 2006, 11:56 AM

Webb and others, it is not just the lens. You should power down when connecting the XL (or ANY camcorder) to the deck, or even the deck to the computor. You should always power down whenever connecting two peices of electrical equipment. Bob

Greg Drusjack · February 22nd, 2006, 02:57 PM

I just purchased a Canon 3x wide angle lens without a lens hood. I thought I checked it online and found it for $30 before I bought the lens. Now that I bought it I can't find any reference anywhere, even on Canon's website, to the hood for the XL 3x wide angle. I'm starting to believe I mistook a hood for an EF lens before...

Anyway, does anyone have a source/link to aquiring the hood or at least a part number before I spend an eternity on the phone with Canon?

Thanks,
Greg

Greg Boston · February 22nd, 2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Drusjack

I just purchased a Canon 3x wide angle lens without a lens hood. I thought I checked it online and found it for $30 before I bought the lens. Now that I bought it I can't find any reference anywhere, even on Canon's website, to the hood for the XL 3x wide angle. I'm starting to believe I mistook a hood for an EF lens before...

Anyway, does anyone have a source/link to aquiring the hood or at least a part number before I spend an eternity on the phone with Canon?

Thanks,
Greg

I have purchased a replacement hood for the 16x manual lens ($62) directly from Canon. Just call 1-800-OKCANON and they'll get you to the right person.

-gb-

Greg Drusjack · February 27th, 2006, 07:48 AM

I really thought Dealing with this over the pgone would prove to be a hassle. Particularly after wasting so much time trying to find the part online (which usually proves to be a piece of cake). Anyway, I got connected immediately to a parts person and she had the hood ordered and on it's way in a flash!

Real-person phone assistance, a real rarity these days.

Thanks again,
Greg

John Threat · March 16th, 2006, 08:35 AM

The unthinkable happened. A P.A. on a shoot dropped my 3x Lens.
Does anyone know the process of getting your lens serviced?

It was in a protective case, but it dropped from a high distance. The glass isn't cracked and I actually shot with it, but the focus ring is 100% jammed and won't rotate.

How long does it take to turn around a service job on the lens and how much does it usually set you back?

Don Palomaki · March 18th, 2006, 05:42 AM

No insurance? Call Canon's toll-free number (800-828-4040 last I knew). They will give you details as to how/where to send it for service (probably Jamesburg, NJ, if you are in NY). Turnaround on XL1 is usually reasonably fast, 3-5 days plus shipping, do not have any reports on lenses but probably about the same. Cost will not be cheap, but no doubt less than a new lens.

Frank Bogart · May 29th, 2006, 02:01 PM

Does the 3x wide angle lens by Canon have the fisheye distortion that you get with some of the cheap adaptors? Could someone post screengrabs somewhere for me to see? And how much wider does it get with the 3x? Like hom much percent? I just want to know because I am seriously thinking of investing! Screengrabs would be really helpful! Just want to avoid the rectilinear distortion of the fisheye lenses and cheap adaptors while getting as wide as possible at the same time! Any answers will be really appreciated! thanks!!!

Chris Hurd · May 29th, 2006, 02:14 PM

For starters, see http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/articles/article38.php

Richard Grebby · August 4th, 2007, 02:58 PM

I was thinking of getting the canon 3X Wide Lens but then realised that 3x zoom really isnt that much, so if I wanted to get a really good depth of field Im not sure that this lens would do the job.
Am I wrong?

Mike Teutsch · August 4th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby

I was thinking of getting the canon 3X Wide Lens but then realised that 3x zoom really isnt that much, so if I wanted to get a really good depth of field Im not sure that this lens would do the job.
Am I wrong?

When you talk about a "really good depth of field" and if you mean a really shallow depth of field, then you are right! You need a long lens for the shallow depth. Back way out and zoom in for that effect.

Don't forget to open the lens up too! Use ND filters to allow you to open it wider. A good lens for shallow depth of field is the 16x manual. AT full zoom, you can open it up further than the stock 16x auto lens. I think it is a stop 1.6, but I'd have to check for sure.

Mike

PS: You will love the lens for close quarter shooting though!

MT

Richard Grebby · August 4th, 2007, 03:08 PM

im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

Mike Teutsch · August 4th, 2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby

im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

Sorry, I was adding the 16x manual reply while you were typing.

Mike

Mike Teutsch · August 4th, 2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Grebby

im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens.

Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1?

oh and thanks for the speedy reply

And, yes. The 20x works just fine with the XL1s.

OK, just tried the 16x and it opens up to F1.6 under under full zoom. The 20x auto goes only to F3.4. That's a good difference.

Mike

Richard Grebby · August 4th, 2007, 03:15 PM

hmm, sounds like the 16x is the best option. it also has the macro function too right?

January 10th, 2006, 01:11 AM	#166
Webb Pickersgill Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 204	3x Lens broken I'm bumping up this really old thread because this just happened to me. Now, I ALWAYS power down my camera before changing lenses because I heard the bad things that could happen. So, I don't know what happened this time. I was in the same situation, I was firing up the camera for the first shot of a full-weekend shoot, and I got a "check lens" warning on screen. After that, I had no zoom, iris, or focus controls. When the camera would power up, I'd be stuck with whatever the auto-iris would pick for that instant, then it became unadjustable. Luckily there was a rental house that had an extra 3x lens available otherwise we would have been screwed. (Filming in a small motel room with just a 20x and 16x lens just wouldn't have worked) So, I guess I'll be calling a Canon service center tomorrow. @#$%#@! __________________ Webb Pickersgill Bassline Digital, LLC

February 22nd, 2006, 02:57 PM	#168
Greg Drusjack New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey Posts: 5	Lens Hood for 3X Wide Lens I just purchased a Canon 3x wide angle lens without a lens hood. I thought I checked it online and found it for $30 before I bought the lens. Now that I bought it I can't find any reference anywhere, even on Canon's website, to the hood for the XL 3x wide angle. I'm starting to believe I mistook a hood for an EF lens before... Anyway, does anyone have a source/link to aquiring the hood or at least a part number before I spend an eternity on the phone with Canon? Thanks, Greg

February 27th, 2006, 07:48 AM	#170
Greg Drusjack New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey Posts: 5	Thanks! I really thought Dealing with this over the pgone would prove to be a hassle. Particularly after wasting so much time trying to find the part online (which usually proves to be a piece of cake). Anyway, I got connected immediately to a parts person and she had the hood ordered and on it's way in a flash! Real-person phone assistance, a real rarity these days. Thanks again, Greg

March 16th, 2006, 08:35 AM	#171
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	What to Do if Your Canon 3x Lens Breaks The unthinkable happened. A P.A. on a shoot dropped my 3x Lens. Does anyone know the process of getting your lens serviced? It was in a protective case, but it dropped from a high distance. The glass isn't cracked and I actually shot with it, but the focus ring is 100% jammed and won't rotate. How long does it take to turn around a service job on the lens and how much does it usually set you back? __________________ Director: http://www.mediathreat.com

March 18th, 2006, 05:42 AM	#172
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	No insurance? Call Canon's toll-free number (800-828-4040 last I knew). They will give you details as to how/where to send it for service (probably Jamesburg, NJ, if you are in NY). Turnaround on XL1 is usually reasonably fast, 3-5 days plus shipping, do not have any reports on lenses but probably about the same. Cost will not be cheap, but no doubt less than a new lens. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 11th, 2006, 11:56 AM	#167
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Webb and others, it is not just the lens. You should power down when connecting the XL (or ANY camcorder) to the deck, or even the deck to the computor. You should always power down whenever connecting two peices of electrical equipment. Bob

May 29th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#173
Frank Bogart New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 9	3x wide angle lens by Canon Does the 3x wide angle lens by Canon have the fisheye distortion that you get with some of the cheap adaptors? Could someone post screengrabs somewhere for me to see? And how much wider does it get with the 3x? Like hom much percent? I just want to know because I am seriously thinking of investing! Screengrabs would be really helpful! Just want to avoid the rectilinear distortion of the fisheye lenses and cheap adaptors while getting as wide as possible at the same time! Any answers will be really appreciated! thanks!!!

May 29th, 2006, 02:14 PM	#174
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August 4th, 2007, 02:58 PM	#175
Richard Grebby Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kent, England Posts: 134	3X Wide Lens and lack of zoom/ DoF I was thinking of getting the canon 3X Wide Lens but then realised that 3x zoom really isnt that much, so if I wanted to get a really good depth of field Im not sure that this lens would do the job. Am I wrong? __________________ --Canon XL1-- http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk

August 4th, 2007, 03:08 PM	#177
Richard Grebby Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kent, England Posts: 134	im debating whether to get one or get a 16x manual lens. Also, i know that the XL2 20x lens will work, but will the zoom/focus preset buttons work with the XL1? oh and thanks for the speedy reply __________________ --Canon XL1-- http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk Last edited by Richard Grebby; August 4th, 2007 at 03:08 PM. Reason: a thanks

August 4th, 2007, 03:15 PM	#180
Richard Grebby Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kent, England Posts: 134	hmm, sounds like the 16x is the best option. it also has the macro function too right? __________________ --Canon XL1-- http://www.richardgrebby.co.uk Last edited by Richard Grebby; August 4th, 2007 at 03:21 PM. Reason: update