canon press release at DVinfo.net

Jimmy McKenzie · April 14th, 2004, 12:26 PM

Among the broadcast division's many annoucements concerning the new lenses, we see at the bottom of their official release prior to nab the following under the digital video header:

Digital Video

Canon will also have on display at NAB2004 its entire line of digital video camcorders, including the XL1s and GL2 digital video camcorders, its network video solutions and Pan/Tilt/Zoom (P/T/Z) system cameras, and full line of projectors.

The rest of the release deals with other non prosumer markets.

Perhaps there will be a surprise outside the scope of this most recent release.

Rob Belics · April 14th, 2004, 12:55 PM

Actually it tells me there won't be any xl2 there since they say they'll be showing the xl1s.

Peter Wiley · April 14th, 2004, 06:04 PM

"including the xl1s" does not exclude other cameras that might be announced.

Suppose Canon does not upgrade the xl1s per se, but keeps it in its product line because it fills a niche and then introduces a yet to be named, slightly more expensive entirely new camera?

Greg Boston · April 14th, 2004, 11:13 PM

They keep extending the rebates so they must be trying to flush the inventory for something new coming down the line. ;)

regards,

Dylan Couper · April 15th, 2004, 01:56 AM

Did you guys miss this thread from a few days ago?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=24457

Greg Boston · April 15th, 2004, 07:11 AM

Dylan,

I saw that thread. I think it's ironic that even though the broadcast division is separate as Chris states, they intend to have the XL1s and GL2 on display at NAB.

My point was they are flushing the inventory from dealer shelves with the rebates. This quote is from the article on ABCDV.COM

"Add to that the prolongation of the XL1s rebate, which should have ended on March 31st,"

Now, I recall that the rebate was supposed to have ended on JANUARY 31st. Then extended, then extended again, ad nauseum.

Perhaps by late summer we will see something. If CANON was happy with their current offering, they wouldn't be trying so hard to clear out dealer inventory with the 'never ending' rebate.

Waiting ever so patiently,

Rob Belics · April 15th, 2004, 08:33 AM

Including the xl1s can only mean they won't show the xl2 since it is presumed to be the next generation.

Chris Hurd · April 15th, 2004, 09:31 AM

Greg: << I think it's ironic that even though the broadcast division is separate as Chris states, they intend to have the XL1s and GL2 on display at NAB >>

The Canon USA booth at NAB is a two-part affair. One side is the consumer video division, which includes XL1S and GL2. The other side is the broadcast video lens division. They're separated by a wall completely dividing the exhibit space in half. One side can't see the other. Apropriate, eh?

Jan de Wever's thread mentioned here pretty much hits the nail on the head -- the rebate extension is your primary clue that no XL1S replacement will be shown at NAB. The press releases from the broadcast division have nothing to do with it -- they never report consumer-side developments. It's a mistake to infer anything from the absence of info in those press releases. However it's correct to infer from the rebate extension. Either way, that assumption is dead on target: nothing new from the consumer video division next week.

There will be no XL1S replacement publicly shown at NAB. Hope this helps,

Barry Goyette · April 15th, 2004, 09:50 AM

Why did you have to throw in "publicly", chris? You know that just made this thread at least one page longer.

I'm gonna have to go fire up my DVX just to make the tingling go away.

Barry

Chris Hurd · April 15th, 2004, 10:05 AM

Just covering the bases, Barry...

N.othing
D.efinite
A.t this time.

Greg Boston · April 15th, 2004, 10:17 AM

Chris,

I am in agreement that nothing will be shown at NAB. I guess I am inferring by the ever extending rebate issue that something is definitely in the works. That's why I surmised maybe late summer this year. It is purely a guess on my part.

I imagine that Canon is waiting to see how well received the HDV standard is before they pounce on the market with a cutting edge product like the original XL-1 was.

Again, I am waiting patiently to see what happens. I think everyone wants to see how Canon plans to 'up the ante' in prosumer video.

Enjoy NAB, which I could get there for a face to face.

regards,

Chris Hurd · April 15th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Thanks Greg; hope to meet you one of these days... we need a Texas event! Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio all have ample convention centers.

Canon will definitely do HDV, they're on the consortium... but it's still a little early. In fact, later this summer will still be too early for HDV. My *guess* is that an XL1S replacement from Canon later this year will most likely be standard defintion DV, but I'm just supposing.

Richard Alvarez · April 15th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Chris,

SXSW would seem to be the place for a "Texas" meeting. Though I was there last month, and pretty much overwhelmed by the things to do, people to see.

Since this is not the "Area 51" thread... I won't post the rumours I've hear about an August release...

uh...

nevermind

Chris Hurd · April 15th, 2004, 11:48 AM

Funny thing is Canon USA used to do SXSW. The exhibit floor there is very small so they dropped out of it about two years ago. At least it was then. If other camera manufacturers are there, Canon might come back.

Barry Goyette · April 15th, 2004, 11:51 AM

Chris,

I had no Idea that you were a member of the National Dart Association (NDA). I've been thinking of joining. Went to their website, looks like a fun group.

Have fun at NAB....I hope you'll give us a report on any cool goings-on there.

Barry

April 14th, 2004, 12:26 PM	#1
Jimmy McKenzie Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterloo Ontario Posts: 721	canon press release Among the broadcast division's many annoucements concerning the new lenses, we see at the bottom of their official release prior to nab the following under the digital video header: Digital Video Canon will also have on display at NAB2004 its entire line of digital video camcorders, including the XL1s and GL2 digital video camcorders, its network video solutions and Pan/Tilt/Zoom (P/T/Z) system cameras, and full line of projectors. The rest of the release deals with other non prosumer markets. Perhaps there will be a surprise outside the scope of this most recent release.

April 15th, 2004, 01:56 AM	#5
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April 15th, 2004, 09:31 AM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Greg: << I think it's ironic that even though the broadcast division is separate as Chris states, they intend to have the XL1s and GL2 on display at NAB >> The Canon USA booth at NAB is a two-part affair. One side is the consumer video division, which includes XL1S and GL2. The other side is the broadcast video lens division. They're separated by a wall completely dividing the exhibit space in half. One side can't see the other. Apropriate, eh? Jan de Wever's thread mentioned here pretty much hits the nail on the head -- the rebate extension is your primary clue that no XL1S replacement will be shown at NAB. The press releases from the broadcast division have nothing to do with it -- they never report consumer-side developments. It's a mistake to infer anything from the absence of info in those press releases. However it's correct to infer from the rebate extension. Either way, that assumption is dead on target: nothing new from the consumer video division next week. There will be no XL1S replacement publicly shown at NAB. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 15th, 2004, 10:05 AM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Just covering the bases, Barry... N.othing D.efinite A.t this time. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 15th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#12
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Thanks Greg; hope to meet you one of these days... we need a Texas event! Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio all have ample convention centers. Canon will definitely do HDV, they're on the consortium... but it's still a little early. In fact, later this summer will still be too early for HDV. My guess is that an XL1S replacement from Canon later this year will most likely be standard defintion DV, but I'm just supposing. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 14th, 2004, 12:55 PM	#2
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	Actually it tells me there won't be any xl2 there since they say they'll be showing the xl1s.

April 14th, 2004, 06:04 PM	#3
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	"including the xl1s" does not exclude other cameras that might be announced. Suppose Canon does not upgrade the xl1s per se, but keeps it in its product line because it fills a niche and then introduces a yet to be named, slightly more expensive entirely new camera?

April 14th, 2004, 11:13 PM	#4
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	They keep extending the rebates so they must be trying to flush the inventory for something new coming down the line. ;) regards,

April 15th, 2004, 07:11 AM	#6
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Dylan, I saw that thread. I think it's ironic that even though the broadcast division is separate as Chris states, they intend to have the XL1s and GL2 on display at NAB. My point was they are flushing the inventory from dealer shelves with the rebates. This quote is from the article on ABCDV.COM "Add to that the prolongation of the XL1s rebate, which should have ended on March 31st," Now, I recall that the rebate was supposed to have ended on JANUARY 31st. Then extended, then extended again, ad nauseum. Perhaps by late summer we will see something. If CANON was happy with their current offering, they wouldn't be trying so hard to clear out dealer inventory with the 'never ending' rebate. Waiting ever so patiently,

April 15th, 2004, 08:33 AM	#7
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	Including the xl1s can only mean they won't show the xl2 since it is presumed to be the next generation.

April 15th, 2004, 09:50 AM	#9
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	Why did you have to throw in "publicly", chris? You know that just made this thread at least one page longer. I'm gonna have to go fire up my DVX just to make the tingling go away. Barry

April 15th, 2004, 10:17 AM	#11
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Chris, I am in agreement that nothing will be shown at NAB. I guess I am inferring by the ever extending rebate issue that something is definitely in the works. That's why I surmised maybe late summer this year. It is purely a guess on my part. I imagine that Canon is waiting to see how well received the HDV standard is before they pounce on the market with a cutting edge product like the original XL-1 was. Again, I am waiting patiently to see what happens. I think everyone wants to see how Canon plans to 'up the ante' in prosumer video. Enjoy NAB, which I could get there for a face to face. regards,

April 15th, 2004, 10:50 AM	#13
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Chris, SXSW would seem to be the place for a "Texas" meeting. Though I was there last month, and pretty much overwhelmed by the things to do, people to see. Since this is not the "Area 51" thread... I won't post the rumours I've hear about an August release... uh... nevermind

April 15th, 2004, 11:48 AM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Funny thing is Canon USA used to do SXSW. The exhibit floor there is very small so they dropped out of it about two years ago. At least it was then. If other camera manufacturers are there, Canon might come back. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 15th, 2004, 11:51 AM	#15
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	Chris, I had no Idea that you were a member of the National Dart Association (NDA). I've been thinking of joining. Went to their website, looks like a fun group. Have fun at NAB....I hope you'll give us a report on any cool goings-on there. Barry