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Ed Frazier · October 26th, 2001, 03:50 PM

I am about ready to order an XL1S but need to know if the BeachTek DXA-4S adapter that I use with my Sony camera will work with the Canon. Output on this adapter is a stereo mini plug , but drawings on page 18 of the XL1S User's Manual seem to show the mic connector as having two male plugs. Are they both mic lines or is one power and the other stereo mic. I think the BeachTek adapter designed for this camera uses RCA plugs, but I could be mistaken on that.

Can anyone verify that the DXA-4S will work?

Thanks,
Ed

Chris Hurd · October 26th, 2001, 04:37 PM

XL1 mic input: the smaller one is power and the larger one is stereo audio.

November 1st, 2001, 10:06 PM

I can't swear to it, but I think they are different. I know
Elite Video shows 2 different ones in their catalog.
I have one that does work with the XL1

Peter Koller · February 17th, 2002, 08:24 AM

Hi Ed,

I hope you notice my reply to your old, old post. I am having the same problem now.. There is a guy selling the Beachtek XLR Adapter on ebay, but the photo shows a stereo mini plug (Sony?) and not the RCA (XL-1?) Beachtek shows on its website.

Are you using your Sony Adapter with your XL1 now? Do you plug it into the plug of the onboard mic or do you use an adapter, plugging it into the RCA at the rear of the camera?

Cheers, Peter

Ed Frazier · February 17th, 2002, 09:07 AM

Hi Peter,

I contacted Beachtek and was told that the Sony and Canon adapters use the same camera mount and electronically they are the same. The only real difference is the audio connector. It works fine with the XL1S when plugged into the mic jack. You could also get a mini-plug->RCA adaper and connect to Audio 1 or 2 ports.

As a side note, I purchased the MA200 with my camera and was disappointed to learn that you cannot input line levels to the XLR connectors, only mic levels. I often use line level output from a mixer and connect directly to the RCA jacks, bypassing the MA200. When balanced line levels are necessary, I'll use the Beachtek since it can accept both line and mic levels.

Don Palomaki · February 17th, 2002, 09:45 AM

It is easy to build a pad (attenuator) in a balanced line to take the typical +4 dBU down to around -35 dBV or so for a MA-100/200. And it would all fit in a XLR shell. You can buy premade pads in XLR shells from folks like Shure. Any you probably can buy pre-made -40 dB cables (although I do not have a pointer to a specific product for you.)

Vic Owen · February 17th, 2002, 10:07 AM

If you decide to run line levels (or attenuated line levels) into the MA-100/MA-200, do some empirical checking beforehand. See the earlier string labeled "MA-100 Sound Balance" in the XL-1 forum.

It's quite possible to do this, but you can easily put the adapters into hard limit if you're not careful.

October 26th, 2001, 03:50 PM	#1
Ed Frazier Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 343	XL1S Mic Connector I am about ready to order an XL1S but need to know if the BeachTek DXA-4S adapter that I use with my Sony camera will work with the Canon. Output on this adapter is a stereo mini plug , but drawings on page 18 of the XL1S User's Manual seem to show the mic connector as having two male plugs. Are they both mic lines or is one power and the other stereo mic. I think the BeachTek adapter designed for this camera uses RCA plugs, but I could be mistaken on that. Can anyone verify that the DXA-4S will work? Thanks, Ed

October 26th, 2001, 04:37 PM	#2
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February 17th, 2002, 09:07 AM	#5
Ed Frazier Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 343	That was awhile back! Hi Peter, I contacted Beachtek and was told that the Sony and Canon adapters use the same camera mount and electronically they are the same. The only real difference is the audio connector. It works fine with the XL1S when plugged into the mic jack. You could also get a mini-plug->RCA adaper and connect to Audio 1 or 2 ports. As a side note, I purchased the MA200 with my camera and was disappointed to learn that you cannot input line levels to the XLR connectors, only mic levels. I often use line level output from a mixer and connect directly to the RCA jacks, bypassing the MA200. When balanced line levels are necessary, I'll use the Beachtek since it can accept both line and mic levels. __________________ Ed Frazier

February 17th, 2002, 10:07 AM	#7
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	If you decide to run line levels (or attenuated line levels) into the MA-100/MA-200, do some empirical checking beforehand. See the earlier string labeled "MA-100 Sound Balance" in the XL-1 forum. It's quite possible to do this, but you can easily put the adapters into hard limit if you're not careful. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 1st, 2001, 10:06 PM	#3
pjssssss Posts: n/a	I can't swear to it, but I think they are different. I know Elite Video shows 2 different ones in their catalog. I have one that does work with the XL1

February 17th, 2002, 08:24 AM	#4
Peter Koller Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brunn am Gebirge, Austria Posts: 161	Hi Ed, I hope you notice my reply to your old, old post. I am having the same problem now.. There is a guy selling the Beachtek XLR Adapter on ebay, but the photo shows a stereo mini plug (Sony?) and not the RCA (XL-1?) Beachtek shows on its website. Are you using your Sony Adapter with your XL1 now? Do you plug it into the plug of the onboard mic or do you use an adapter, plugging it into the RCA at the rear of the camera? Cheers, Peter

February 17th, 2002, 09:45 AM	#6
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	It is easy to build a pad (attenuator) in a balanced line to take the typical +4 dBU down to around -35 dBV or so for a MA-100/200. And it would all fit in a XLR shell. You can buy premade pads in XLR shells from folks like Shure. Any you probably can buy pre-made -40 dB cables (although I do not have a pointer to a specific product for you.)