Post pics of your XL1/s rigs

Patrick Wright · May 5th, 2004, 12:13 AM

Heya,

Thanks for the compliments. I really havent had time to go out
and shoot enough good examples to do a proper comparison but
weather permitting I hope to get around to doing more this weekend.

The lens is an Angenieux 9.5mm-57mm wide angle for 16mm with an Arri style
Bayonet mount http://www.quicktel.com/users/archamian/adapter004.JPG that
has a speed range of F1.9-22 (T1.9-22). I really wanted a high quality fully
manual lens that wasn't going to cost me $1500+ and also I hoped it would give
a greater sense of DOF so I picked this one up on ebay for $350. I chose the
bayonet mount because they are plentiful and seem cheaper overall than PL or
other more modern mounts. Also they still produce new lenses with this same
mount so if I wanted a lens with modern optical coatings id have an upgrade
path. Because the lens is 16mm format the magnification (about 1.8) and loss of
DOF is much less than 35mm lenses which have magnification factor of about 7
and lose significant DOF.

The adapter itself is comprised of two main pieces. The body is made
from aircraft aluminum while the mount is a factory xl1 stainless steel
( http://www.quicktel.com/users/archamian/adapter005.JPG ) mount
you can order from Canon USA in New Jersey for $45. The adapter
body cost $400 to produce at a local machine shop though they admitted
that if they made 20+ the price would drop to about $75-$100 for the body
not counting the cost of the factory mount.

Overall I would probably have been better off just buying a manual lens that
was made for the XL1 but I am very happy with the results and the total control
this setup affords me. Also I can buy used 16mm lenses for much less and there
is a significantly wider variety of lenses to choose from now.

As for the mini35s I'm also working on an Augus35(moving) and Aldu35(static)
of my own and though I have the DOF I wanted the filmic look some are achieving
is very desirable. Yes, much of the filmic look can be achieved in post but I like to
get my footage as close as ideal as possible to reduce the amount of post work.

I hope this has answered your questions, if you have any more please email me.

--Patrick

Michael Dalton · July 13th, 2004, 12:20 PM

Here is my rig for the EOS lens system with a nice Canon 35-350 lens. I have posted it before.

http://www.digitalcrossing.ca/ef-1.htm

It also has a comparison of the 3x verses the standard 16x. The rod system and pistol grip is from Cavision, and is fantastic. Cavision took the time to build this with me specifically to fit the lens. Anyone interested in one should contact them.

Hai Tran · August 13th, 2004, 02:47 PM

hi Rich
is your light get resource from the batery or it has its own resource? where do you buy it? and its price? thanks
http://home.mindspring.com/~ricks-pi...g.w560h420.jpg

I need to buy a tripod too, url please

Chris Zimmerman · November 11th, 2004, 03:42 PM

Nothing to special,

http://69.49.254.74/welcome.html

Elmar Tewes · November 13th, 2004, 11:45 AM

here is my final equipment:

http://www.penturis.com/kamera/fullfoton.JPG
http://www.penturis.com/kamera/mattebox.JPG
http://www.penturis.com/kamera/matteboxnikon.JPG
http://www.penturis.com/kamera/fulltft.JPG

some parts are made by cosmin. custom made matte box with implemented cokin filterholder and french flag, follow focus device, zoom rods, clamps and some other parts

Pete Mander · April 6th, 2005, 05:03 AM

Heres a pic of my set up with a 3 inch monitor..I made the battery pack you see on the back from an older RC car remote to power the monitor..I made the matte box sun shild thingy too that has a space for drop in filters.. made from plastic cookie sheets and a lense case from an old LCD projector.

i just got this cam and love it I already what the XL2. I had a sony vx2000 and there is quite a differnce in the two.

ya thats my ugly mug holding the cam..LOL

http://img168.exs.cx/img168/529/mycanon39ao.jpg
http://img168.exs.cx/img168/9645/mycanon21nx.jpg

Pete

Tony Davies-Patrick · April 6th, 2005, 05:47 AM

I really like the solid, well-built look of that homemade mattebox/shade, Pete; and wouldn't mind one to fit my X16 manual lens and adapters!

Chris Pettit · April 7th, 2005, 11:00 AM

Ed

I have only just seen this thread - just joined. I am interested in your LCD monitor. I find the overscan on the viewfinder a big problem and usually lug about a big monitor so I can see what I am shooting (if a mic boom is being used). Does your LCD show an underscan picture? How do you power it? Where can I buy one (PAL)? I am also based in the UK.

I also use an ev receiver - I use velcro to attach it to the battery.

Ed Smith · April 7th, 2005, 11:57 AM

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the interest in my rig.

I always get confused with over scan and under scan. But I can tell you that the monitor shows the full frame i.e. outside the save area - Not handy when you are trying to frame a shot accurately.

I got the monitor from ntrac (http://www.ntrac.co.uk/). It looks like that they don't sell it anymore (I got it about 2 years ago). There are plenty of 5.6" monitors available elsewhere. When in-doors, the monitor is generally powered by mains. When mains are not available I have a sealed lead acid battery (that ways a ton). This is then either Velcro to the back of the LCD or I place it in a rucksack or pocket, when on the move.

Cheers,

Chris Pettit · April 7th, 2005, 03:04 PM

Hi Ed

Thanks for your reply. That site has got a LCD monitor that looks quite good. I will check it out.

Cheers

Chris

Lawrence Norris · May 9th, 2005, 10:06 AM

Ed, what type of 5.6 lcd is that and how does ii plug into the view finder port on the front of the xl1s. My name is Larry Norris and I'm getting started in video. Got the xl1s just looking for advise on other equipment to help me with audio, mic setups, ect... Eager to lean and will have a lot of questions. please feel free to email me direct also. I'm new at MB's (message boards) so bare with me till I get up to speed. thx.

Ed Smith · May 9th, 2005, 11:09 AM

Hi Lawrence,

The 5.6" is an ordinary colour TFT with audio and composite out. I connect it to the yellow RCA (composite) in order to see what the camera sees. It does not connect into the viewfinder.

Hope this helps,

Paul Nash · July 16th, 2005, 05:54 PM

I'm the good looking one:

http://www.therealambassadors.com/no...ges/video.html

Mitch Lifton · September 20th, 2005, 07:59 AM

The model I am using is the WAVFIKEGAMI TELE-2X - which fits the Canon B&W EVF perfectly as it is manuafactured by Ikegami.

I pretty much only use the B&W EVF these days.

- don[/QUOTE]

Don,

Do you or anyone know if the TELE-2X will fit the standard (non B&W) XL-1 EVF? I can't afford the 1.5K for the B&W and because I am using the XL-1 on a fig rig I need to keep everything as light as possible. Any other alternatives to keeping my eye glued to the viewfinder? The 5.6" TFT plus battery from VariZoom makes the whole rig too heavy and cubersome though fine on a static tripod.

Jon Canaan · March 22nd, 2006, 12:35 AM

I love looking at other people's stuff. It gives me great ideas. How to run cables, how to attach things, where to use braces, etc.

I have some good pics, but not sure how to post them.. Any advice?

July 13th, 2004, 12:20 PM	#32
Michael Dalton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Torotnto, Canada Posts: 139	Here is my rig for the EOS lens system with a nice Canon 35-350 lens. I have posted it before. http://www.digitalcrossing.ca/ef-1.htm It also has a comparison of the 3x verses the standard 16x. The rod system and pistol grip is from Cavision, and is fantastic. Cavision took the time to build this with me specifically to fit the lens. Anyone interested in one should contact them. __________________ www.digitalcrossing.ca www.4kafrica.com documentary filmmaker/screen writer

November 11th, 2004, 03:42 PM	#34
Chris Zimmerman New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 11	My set up Nothing to special, http://69.49.254.74/welcome.html __________________ Bad TV is really easy to do!

April 6th, 2005, 05:47 AM	#37
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	I really like the solid, well-built look of that homemade mattebox/shade, Pete; and wouldn't mind one to fit my X16 manual lens and adapters! __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

April 7th, 2005, 11:57 AM	#39
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Chris, Thanks for the interest in my rig. I always get confused with over scan and under scan. But I can tell you that the monitor shows the full frame i.e. outside the save area - Not handy when you are trying to frame a shot accurately. I got the monitor from ntrac (http://www.ntrac.co.uk/). It looks like that they don't sell it anymore (I got it about 2 years ago). There are plenty of 5.6" monitors available elsewhere. When in-doors, the monitor is generally powered by mains. When mains are not available I have a sealed lead acid battery (that ways a ton). This is then either Velcro to the back of the LCD or I place it in a rucksack or pocket, when on the move. Cheers, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

May 9th, 2005, 10:06 AM	#41
Lawrence Norris Tourist Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1	New guy w/ questions Ed, what type of 5.6 lcd is that and how does ii plug into the view finder port on the front of the xl1s. My name is Larry Norris and I'm getting started in video. Got the xl1s just looking for advise on other equipment to help me with audio, mic setups, ect... Eager to lean and will have a lot of questions. please feel free to email me direct also. I'm new at MB's (message boards) so bare with me till I get up to speed. thx.

May 5th, 2004, 12:13 AM	#31
Patrick Wright New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bellingham, Wa. U.S.A Posts: 7	Heya, Thanks for the compliments. I really havent had time to go out and shoot enough good examples to do a proper comparison but weather permitting I hope to get around to doing more this weekend. The lens is an Angenieux 9.5mm-57mm wide angle for 16mm with an Arri style Bayonet mount http://www.quicktel.com/users/archamian/adapter004.JPG that has a speed range of F1.9-22 (T1.9-22). I really wanted a high quality fully manual lens that wasn't going to cost me $1500+ and also I hoped it would give a greater sense of DOF so I picked this one up on ebay for $350. I chose the bayonet mount because they are plentiful and seem cheaper overall than PL or other more modern mounts. Also they still produce new lenses with this same mount so if I wanted a lens with modern optical coatings id have an upgrade path. Because the lens is 16mm format the magnification (about 1.8) and loss of DOF is much less than 35mm lenses which have magnification factor of about 7 and lose significant DOF. The adapter itself is comprised of two main pieces. The body is made from aircraft aluminum while the mount is a factory xl1 stainless steel ( http://www.quicktel.com/users/archamian/adapter005.JPG ) mount you can order from Canon USA in New Jersey for $45. The adapter body cost $400 to produce at a local machine shop though they admitted that if they made 20+ the price would drop to about $75-$100 for the body not counting the cost of the factory mount. Overall I would probably have been better off just buying a manual lens that was made for the XL1 but I am very happy with the results and the total control this setup affords me. Also I can buy used 16mm lenses for much less and there is a significantly wider variety of lenses to choose from now. As for the mini35s I'm also working on an Augus35(moving) and Aldu35(static) of my own and though I have the DOF I wanted the filmic look some are achieving is very desirable. Yes, much of the filmic look can be achieved in post but I like to get my footage as close as ideal as possible to reduce the amount of post work. I hope this has answered your questions, if you have any more please email me. --Patrick

August 13th, 2004, 02:47 PM	#33
Hai Tran New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: High Point, NC Posts: 9	hi Rich is your light get resource from the batery or it has its own resource? where do you buy it? and its price? thanks http://home.mindspring.com/~ricks-pi...g.w560h420.jpg I need to buy a tripod too, url please

November 13th, 2004, 11:45 AM	#35
Elmar Tewes Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Frankfurt Germany Posts: 104	here is my final equipment: http://www.penturis.com/kamera/fullfoton.JPG http://www.penturis.com/kamera/mattebox.JPG http://www.penturis.com/kamera/matteboxnikon.JPG http://www.penturis.com/kamera/fulltft.JPG some parts are made by cosmin. custom made matte box with implemented cokin filterholder and french flag, follow focus device, zoom rods, clamps and some other parts

April 6th, 2005, 05:03 AM	#36
Pete Mander Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 116	Heres a pic of my set up with a 3 inch monitor..I made the battery pack you see on the back from an older RC car remote to power the monitor..I made the matte box sun shild thingy too that has a space for drop in filters.. made from plastic cookie sheets and a lense case from an old LCD projector. i just got this cam and love it I already what the XL2. I had a sony vx2000 and there is quite a differnce in the two. ya thats my ugly mug holding the cam..LOL http://img168.exs.cx/img168/529/mycanon39ao.jpg http://img168.exs.cx/img168/9645/mycanon21nx.jpg Pete

April 7th, 2005, 11:00 AM	#38
Chris Pettit New Boot Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 10	Ed I have only just seen this thread - just joined. I am interested in your LCD monitor. I find the overscan on the viewfinder a big problem and usually lug about a big monitor so I can see what I am shooting (if a mic boom is being used). Does your LCD show an underscan picture? How do you power it? Where can I buy one (PAL)? I am also based in the UK. I also use an ev receiver - I use velcro to attach it to the battery.

April 7th, 2005, 03:04 PM	#40
Chris Pettit New Boot Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 10	Hi Ed Thanks for your reply. That site has got a LCD monitor that looks quite good. I will check it out. Cheers Chris

May 9th, 2005, 11:09 AM	#42
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Lawrence, The 5.6" is an ordinary colour TFT with audio and composite out. I connect it to the yellow RCA (composite) in order to see what the camera sees. It does not connect into the viewfinder. Hope this helps, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

July 16th, 2005, 05:54 PM	#43
Paul Nash Tourist Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ellington, CT Posts: 1	I'm the good looking one: http://www.therealambassadors.com/no...ges/video.html

September 20th, 2005, 07:59 AM	#44
Mitch Lifton Tourist Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1	No B&W? The model I am using is the WAVFIKEGAMI TELE-2X - which fits the Canon B&W EVF perfectly as it is manuafactured by Ikegami. I pretty much only use the B&W EVF these days. - don[/QUOTE] Don, Do you or anyone know if the TELE-2X will fit the standard (non B&W) XL-1 EVF? I can't afford the 1.5K for the B&W and because I am using the XL-1 on a fig rig I need to keep everything as light as possible. Any other alternatives to keeping my eye glued to the viewfinder? The 5.6" TFT plus battery from VariZoom makes the whole rig too heavy and cubersome though fine on a static tripod.

March 22nd, 2006, 12:35 AM	#45
Jon Canaan Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: West Sacramento, CA Posts: 1	Hello Everyone, here's some stuff. I love looking at other people's stuff. It gives me great ideas. How to run cables, how to attach things, where to use braces, etc. I have some good pics, but not sure how to post them.. Any advice?