Cranking up the "color Gain" at DVinfo.net

Jeffrey Levenstone · January 22nd, 2004, 04:32 AM

What are the pro's and cons of cranking up the color gain on the XL1s. And what would be and appropriate amount.

Rob Lohman · January 22nd, 2004, 06:05 AM

Color gains controls the saturation of colors. If you turn it all the
way down you will get B&W (no saturation). If you turn it all the
way up the colors will bleed of the screen, that bright.

Just try it out and see for yourself what happens. Personally I
liked to do things in post myself. So I leave most custom preset
settings in their default position (except setup level).

Jeffrey Levenstone · January 22nd, 2004, 06:14 AM

The reason i ask is i have used it about 3 notches from the custom setting and wonderd if i might be doing something that i won't notice until post.

I have been using this camera in manual mode for some time now and the difference between an auto mode and manual is extreem.

Rob Lohman · January 22nd, 2004, 08:10 AM

Well it's always better to test something before an important
shoot. Not during. Shoot some test footage and change the
setting and see what happens in the viewfinder and when you
later watch it back. Color gain should be quite good to see,
especially if you go extreme. One notch might not be too visible
in the viewfinder though.

And in case your wondering, Color Phase pulls all the colors
towards either green or red (if I remember correctly).

Josh Bass · January 22nd, 2004, 01:04 PM

I've found that when outdoors, adding two notches makes everything pop a little more. . .brings out the blue in the sky, and the green in the grass. This is for sunny happy days. . .for a cloudy day, it helps take a little of the grey out of everything.

If you're gonna try indoors, make sure you white balance manually (which in my experience makes the overall color tone very cool--cool colorwise, not as in "awesome"); the XL1s likes to shoot red, that is, add red to the picture, if you simply use the 3200K preset, and when adding color gain to that, it'll just be too reddish. If you WB manually, adding color gain to the cooler toned image might look okay.

January 22nd, 2004, 04:32 AM	#1
Jeffrey Levenstone New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 16	Cranking up the "color Gain" What are the pro's and cons of cranking up the color gain on the XL1s. And what would be and appropriate amount.

January 22nd, 2004, 06:05 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Color gains controls the saturation of colors. If you turn it all the way down you will get B&W (no saturation). If you turn it all the way up the colors will bleed of the screen, that bright. Just try it out and see for yourself what happens. Personally I liked to do things in post myself. So I leave most custom preset settings in their default position (except setup level). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 22nd, 2004, 06:14 AM	#3
Jeffrey Levenstone New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 16	Cracking up the " color gain" The reason i ask is i have used it about 3 notches from the custom setting and wonderd if i might be doing something that i won't notice until post. I have been using this camera in manual mode for some time now and the difference between an auto mode and manual is extreem.

January 22nd, 2004, 08:10 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Well it's always better to test something before an important shoot. Not during. Shoot some test footage and change the setting and see what happens in the viewfinder and when you later watch it back. Color gain should be quite good to see, especially if you go extreme. One notch might not be too visible in the viewfinder though. And in case your wondering, Color Phase pulls all the colors towards either green or red (if I remember correctly). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 22nd, 2004, 01:04 PM	#5
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I've found that when outdoors, adding two notches makes everything pop a little more. . .brings out the blue in the sky, and the green in the grass. This is for sunny happy days. . .for a cloudy day, it helps take a little of the grey out of everything. If you're gonna try indoors, make sure you white balance manually (which in my experience makes the overall color tone very cool--cool colorwise, not as in "awesome"); the XL1s likes to shoot red, that is, add red to the picture, if you simply use the 3200K preset, and when adding color gain to that, it'll just be too reddish. If you WB manually, adding color gain to the cooler toned image might look okay. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB