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Michael Russell · January 9th, 2004, 09:05 AM

Any tips on the following scenerio.

I am shooting for a dentist and I need to get REAL close (tooth surface.
Using an XL1s with the tripod stratteling the chair and at its fullest extension.

Problem is the focal length-that is, not having much of it given the perimeters of the room.

I have thought about getting the lens adaptor and using my EOS lens'. Thoughts?

Your insight is always so helpful.

Mike

Chris Staab · January 9th, 2004, 01:13 PM

The adapter would help tremendously, though if you are in a confined shooting space it may pose a problem. If you have macro lenses, or better yet extension tubes.....you can really get in tight on your subject. Also, keep in mind that when zoomed in so tightly (and without an image stabilizer.....) the slightlest movement of the tripod will violently shake your image. This includes walking on or near the floor area near your tripod while you are shooting. Test the floor movement before time to shoot, this way you can see how forgiving your body motion will need to be when rolling.

If you have the budget for the adapter I'd say:

adapter + wide angle (no higher than 28mm) + extension tubes

This will get you in incredibly close on the teeth. Extension tubes for the EOS system costs roughly $100 (per set of 3) from B&H. The brand name is KENKO.

Bob Safay · January 9th, 2004, 04:33 PM

Michael, I do macro of insects. I use the 16X with the 1.6 extender and either a 1, 3 or 4 diopter. This gives me the ability to fill the screen with an ant milking an aphid!!! You can buy a set of 72mm diopters (usually 1, 2, and 4 with case) for under $100. Hope this helps. Bob

Brett Howton · January 10th, 2004, 10:34 PM

Hi Bob, I need a simialr setup as yours for insect work. Do you know where the best place to buy these Diopters online would be? I'm in Brisbane, Australia.
Thanks!
Brett

Chris Korrow · January 11th, 2004, 07:00 AM

Diopters work great, but the problem with them could be lighting and/ or having anything other than a static tooth in the shot. With hi magnification diopters you have to be right on top of your subject. You can get almost as close with a 300mm EF and still be 3-4 feet away.

If all you need is a tooth, the diopters (low-$$) or the 24mm w/ex tubes (hi $$) would be fine. If theres going to be any interaction, the 300mm could be the way to go. You wouldn't have to straddle the chair & the dentist would have room to move around. Not to mention keeping spit off you & the lens.

Chris

Bob Safay · January 14th, 2004, 03:51 PM

Brett, I got mine from Wolf Camera and Video in Atlanta. Go to www.wolfcamera.com, go to Accessories, click on the 4th one down on the left " Filters 55 - 77mm, go to page 4, about 1/2 way down the page there is a set of three 72mm close up filters for 49.99 US. I love them for insects and flowers. Good luck, Bob

January 9th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#1
Michael Russell New Boot Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 20	"I'm ready for my close up" Any tips on the following scenerio. I am shooting for a dentist and I need to get REAL close (tooth surface. Using an XL1s with the tripod stratteling the chair and at its fullest extension. Problem is the focal length-that is, not having much of it given the perimeters of the room. I have thought about getting the lens adaptor and using my EOS lens'. Thoughts? Your insight is always so helpful. Mike __________________ Results, not intentions count.

January 10th, 2004, 10:34 PM	#4
Brett Howton Tourist Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 4	Hi Bob, I need a simialr setup as yours for insect work. Do you know where the best place to buy these Diopters online would be? I'm in Brisbane, Australia. Thanks! Brett __________________ "The creator, if He exists, must have an inordinate fondness for beetles".

January 9th, 2004, 01:13 PM	#2
Chris Staab Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 51	The adapter would help tremendously, though if you are in a confined shooting space it may pose a problem. If you have macro lenses, or better yet extension tubes.....you can really get in tight on your subject. Also, keep in mind that when zoomed in so tightly (and without an image stabilizer.....) the slightlest movement of the tripod will violently shake your image. This includes walking on or near the floor area near your tripod while you are shooting. Test the floor movement before time to shoot, this way you can see how forgiving your body motion will need to be when rolling. If you have the budget for the adapter I'd say: adapter + wide angle (no higher than 28mm) + extension tubes This will get you in incredibly close on the teeth. Extension tubes for the EOS system costs roughly $100 (per set of 3) from B&H. The brand name is KENKO.

January 9th, 2004, 04:33 PM	#3
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Michael, I do macro of insects. I use the 16X with the 1.6 extender and either a 1, 3 or 4 diopter. This gives me the ability to fill the screen with an ant milking an aphid!!! You can buy a set of 72mm diopters (usually 1, 2, and 4 with case) for under $100. Hope this helps. Bob

January 11th, 2004, 07:00 AM	#5
Chris Korrow Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Whidbey Is, WA Posts: 326	Diopters work great, but the problem with them could be lighting and/ or having anything other than a static tooth in the shot. With hi magnification diopters you have to be right on top of your subject. You can get almost as close with a 300mm EF and still be 3-4 feet away. If all you need is a tooth, the diopters (low-$$) or the 24mm w/ex tubes (hi $$) would be fine. If theres going to be any interaction, the 300mm could be the way to go. You wouldn't have to straddle the chair & the dentist would have room to move around. Not to mention keeping spit off you & the lens. Chris

January 14th, 2004, 03:51 PM	#6
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Brett, I got mine from Wolf Camera and Video in Atlanta. Go to www.wolfcamera.com, go to Accessories, click on the 4th one down on the left " Filters 55 - 77mm, go to page 4, about 1/2 way down the page there is a set of three 72mm close up filters for 49.99 US. I love them for insects and flowers. Good luck, Bob