color matching xl1s with VX2000 at DVinfo.net

May 10th, 2002, 12:39 AM

Has anyone had any experience trying to get the xl1s picture looking the same (or close) to the vx2000?
I have talked to several different people, some say it is impossible without doing it in post, some suggest white balancing on various colored cards etc.
Recently I was at a MAC convention and Canon had it's reps there... they seemed to suggest that it was possible by digging around in the menus. I'm currently away at college and so don't have the cameras to play with :(
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
stonecold

Ed Frazier · May 10th, 2002, 06:06 AM

I haven't tried to match a VX2000, but I have been able to get fairly close to a TRV510 (Dony Digital8). Without a calibrated monitor, it requires a lot of trial and error, but it can be done.

Chris Hurd · May 10th, 2002, 06:41 AM

Howdy from Texas,

It is indeed possible; I don't know the exact custom pre-sets but have heard from people who are doing it.

John Klein · May 14th, 2002, 10:30 PM

I know that on Auto Wt balance, they are somewhat different, but I'd still like to believe that using manual white balance on each one should get you pretty close.

The "look" on the other hand might get a bit trickier. I'd start off with a little negative sharpness on the vx, and/or +2 on the canon; +3 max. Probably +1 (two if broadcast) setup level on the canon, too.

Don't forget to write back if YOU find the right setup, Okay?

May 28th, 2002, 12:11 AM

Hey guys,
I still haven't had proper time to test everything out. I did manage to get the images much closer. (note: I am using an old comodore monitor)
When manually white balanced the vx2000 and xl1s still looked much different. I was able to get them to play together better by white balancing the vx2000 with 2 blue lighting gels in front of the lens.
Like I said, using the comodore monitor I can't be too sure, but it was a huge improvement. When I get time to tweak I'll make sure I repost. BTW, does anyone have any suggestions on calibrated monitors etc? Are these necessary? What is the price range? Are there particular monitors to look for or avoid? I haven't done any research on this, I'm sure there are threads that talk about it, but if anyone had any advice, I'd be grateful.
Thanks,
stonecold
Chris - great site!!!

May 10th, 2002, 12:39 AM	#1
stonecold Posts: n/a	color matching xl1s with VX2000 Has anyone had any experience trying to get the xl1s picture looking the same (or close) to the vx2000? I have talked to several different people, some say it is impossible without doing it in post, some suggest white balancing on various colored cards etc. Recently I was at a MAC convention and Canon had it's reps there... they seemed to suggest that it was possible by digging around in the menus. I'm currently away at college and so don't have the cameras to play with :( Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks stonecold

May 10th, 2002, 06:06 AM	#2
Ed Frazier Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 343	I haven't tried to match a VX2000, but I have been able to get fairly close to a TRV510 (Dony Digital8). Without a calibrated monitor, it requires a lot of trial and error, but it can be done. __________________ Ed Frazier

May 10th, 2002, 06:41 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Howdy from Texas, It is indeed possible; I don't know the exact custom pre-sets but have heard from people who are doing it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 14th, 2002, 10:30 PM	#4
John Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 182	I know that on Auto Wt balance, they are somewhat different, but I'd still like to believe that using manual white balance on each one should get you pretty close. The "look" on the other hand might get a bit trickier. I'd start off with a little negative sharpness on the vx, and/or +2 on the canon; +3 max. Probably +1 (two if broadcast) setup level on the canon, too. Don't forget to write back if YOU find the right setup, Okay? __________________ < >< . . . . . < >< . . . . . < ><

May 28th, 2002, 12:11 AM	#5
stonecold Posts: n/a	Hey guys, I still haven't had proper time to test everything out. I did manage to get the images much closer. (note: I am using an old comodore monitor) When manually white balanced the vx2000 and xl1s still looked much different. I was able to get them to play together better by white balancing the vx2000 with 2 blue lighting gels in front of the lens. Like I said, using the comodore monitor I can't be too sure, but it was a huge improvement. When I get time to tweak I'll make sure I repost. BTW, does anyone have any suggestions on calibrated monitors etc? Are these necessary? What is the price range? Are there particular monitors to look for or avoid? I haven't done any research on this, I'm sure there are threads that talk about it, but if anyone had any advice, I'd be grateful. Thanks, stonecold Chris - great site!!!