XL1 / XL1S various posts

Ola Tuvesson · March 14th, 2004, 07:44 AM

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for your reply, unfortunately the tripod has already been sold to someone else for £180... :(

Ola

Jim Wilson · March 17th, 2004, 10:14 AM

I use a Canon EF 100-400mm lens with my Xl-1s. My main subject matter is wild life/ Natural History. Does anyone have suggestions for minimising shake. especially at high magnification?

Jay Gladwell · March 20th, 2004, 07:13 AM

Yesterday, I had to shoot a talking head--simple! It was a one-time deal, no going back.

1.) Person in chair, sat relatively still, no moving forward or backward within depth of field.

2.) Camera on tripod, fixed image size--no zooming in or out.

3.) Always shoot in "Manual" mode.

4.) Auto-stabilizer "off."

5.) Auto-focus set to "Manual."

When I got the footage home and looked at it, every minute or so it appeared to go slightly out of focus then come back into focus as if the auto-focus were trying to find itself. I looked at the lens and the focus switch is set on "manual".

Have any of you ever had this happen or known anyone that has?

Thanks!

Gareth Trezise · March 20th, 2004, 04:31 PM

Jim,

This question has been covered many times on this site. I myself have asked it before.

Les Bosher just across the water from you in Wales sorted me out and I am very satisfied with my lens support for this lens on the XL1.

His web site is www.lesbosher.co.uk/default.htm

I took mine over to him so I have seen his facilities and wildlife camera operators from every corner of the globe send their cameras to him. I admit not many are XL1's more like Arriflex and Aaton and what I had wasn't cheap but at the end of the day over here I couldn't find anyone else with a better solution and Les was very helpfull.

Basically I use a converted Arri Matte Box Interface with extended support bars and obviously you can use this for other lenses and add a matte box etc.

A decent tripod is also a must and a steady hand goes a long way but at extreme telephoto on a windy day, don't expect too much!

Gareth Trezise

Jim Wilson · March 21st, 2004, 02:22 PM

Thank Gareth,

I checked out the web site. Its exactly what I have been searching for on the net for some time.

Jim

Alex Taylor · March 22nd, 2004, 01:02 AM

I had the wonderful opportunity to use an XL1S this weekend as I'm DPing an independent film my friend's shooting in Victoria right now. He indulged and bought an XL1S for the shoot, so I get to use it for the next few weeks.

This will most likely be old news to all of you who already own one, but I can't get over how well this camera seems to be designed. I was comfortable with it within 5 minutes of picking it up; everything is so well placed and convenient. Now I know what all the buzz is about!

Rob Lohman · March 22nd, 2004, 07:26 AM

Glad you like it! Let us know how the shoot goes <g>

Andrew Kiu · March 24th, 2004, 06:32 PM

Anyone got idea “WHEN” the canon Xl-1s will be discontinue ?!!!, after the new model XL2 ???? How about the Re-sell value???

Rob Lohman · March 25th, 2004, 03:23 AM

No-one knows. Even if a replacement hits the market the XL1S
will still be in stores around the world for some time (due to stock).

Resell value is also unknown, but the "old" XL1 still has a good
resell value over the XL1S to give you an indication.

Norman Woo · March 26th, 2004, 12:36 AM

Hi folks

Which wide angle adapter to use on the XL1 for use on the Glidecam V16? Or should I go with the 3X lens? I understand that the 3X lens has no stabilization. But if I'll be flying the XL1 on the V16, I don't think I need the lens stabilization at all, right?

Thanks

Charles Papert · March 26th, 2004, 01:43 AM

Correct, you won't need the lens stabilization with the Glidecam.

3x lens is great. The Century .7x zoom-through for the 16x lens is also great for its flexibility. The .6x is only partial zoom through so you would have to remove to shoot telephoto.

Without having any idea what you are shooting, it's not an absolute necessity to shoot wide angle with a stabilizer--longer lens stuff can look terrific also.

Mark A. Foley · March 26th, 2004, 06:46 AM

For those who have used the XL1s for green screen footage...what mode is better to use normal or frame mode...or does it really matter?

Steve Zuns · March 27th, 2004, 01:07 PM

Hey guys, here's a question...

I'm using the MA-200 shoulder pack with my XL1S and i tried using an AKG C568 Shotgun mic. Obviously this mic need phantom power and i guess i was mistaken to think that the camera would provide this. How much power can the camera provide through the DC line to the shoulder pac. Also, as i am a novice, how do i get a phantom power mic to work with the camera? Thanks for you help.

- Steve

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 04:24 AM

Disclaimer: I haven't got any experience with this, so these
thoughts are from thinking about it.

I'd say shooting in interlacing is going to be hell with green
screening. You can't do de-interlace before the green screen
removal since it will probably mix green with your subject on
the intersections. After the green screen removal there might
not be enough information to do a very good interlacing removal.

Shooting in interlaced does yield a resolution increase though.
Why not run some tests? But my feeling tells me you should
probably shoot in frame mode at high shutter speeds (to remove
any motion blurring that will trouble your key extraction. And you
can add motion blurring later to only the green screen layer
anway).

Don Palomaki · March 28th, 2004, 06:05 AM

The 5 volt output is spcifically intended for a few Canon accessories such as the MA-100, MA-200, a RFU (channel 3/4 output adapter) and some of the Canon mics. Most third party mics looking for phantom power expect 48 volts. Conecting another load to the 5-volt jack may cause problems if the load is excessive.

March 17th, 2004, 10:14 AM	#1172
Jim Wilson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cobh, County Cork, Ireland Posts: 3	XL-1s and Lens Support for 100-400m Lens I use a Canon EF 100-400mm lens with my Xl-1s. My main subject matter is wild life/ Natural History. Does anyone have suggestions for minimising shake. especially at high magnification?

March 20th, 2004, 07:13 AM	#1173
Jay Gladwell Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,244	Errant focus--not zooming Yesterday, I had to shoot a talking head--simple! It was a one-time deal, no going back. 1.) Person in chair, sat relatively still, no moving forward or backward within depth of field. 2.) Camera on tripod, fixed image size--no zooming in or out. 3.) Always shoot in "Manual" mode. 4.) Auto-stabilizer "off." 5.) Auto-focus set to "Manual." When I got the footage home and looked at it, every minute or so it appeared to go slightly out of focus then come back into focus as if the auto-focus were trying to find itself. I looked at the lens and the focus switch is set on "manual". Have any of you ever had this happen or known anyone that has? Thanks!

March 22nd, 2004, 01:02 AM	#1176
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	First time using XL1S I had the wonderful opportunity to use an XL1S this weekend as I'm DPing an independent film my friend's shooting in Victoria right now. He indulged and bought an XL1S for the shoot, so I get to use it for the next few weeks. This will most likely be old news to all of you who already own one, but I can't get over how well this camera seems to be designed. I was comfortable with it within 5 minutes of picking it up; everything is so well placed and convenient. Now I know what all the buzz is about! __________________ alextaylor.org

March 22nd, 2004, 07:26 AM	#1177
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Glad you like it! Let us know how the shoot goes <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 24th, 2004, 06:32 PM	#1178
Andrew Kiu Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BRUNEI Posts: 108	discontinue XL-1s? Anyone got idea “WHEN” the canon Xl-1s will be discontinue ?!!!, after the new model XL2 ???? How about the Re-sell value??? __________________ Andrew

March 14th, 2004, 07:44 AM	#1171
Ola Tuvesson New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 17	Hi Matthew, Thanks for your reply, unfortunately the tripod has already been sold to someone else for £180... :( Ola

March 20th, 2004, 04:31 PM	#1174
Gareth Trezise Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 83	Jim, This question has been covered many times on this site. I myself have asked it before. Les Bosher just across the water from you in Wales sorted me out and I am very satisfied with my lens support for this lens on the XL1. His web site is www.lesbosher.co.uk/default.htm I took mine over to him so I have seen his facilities and wildlife camera operators from every corner of the globe send their cameras to him. I admit not many are XL1's more like Arriflex and Aaton and what I had wasn't cheap but at the end of the day over here I couldn't find anyone else with a better solution and Les was very helpfull. Basically I use a converted Arri Matte Box Interface with extended support bars and obviously you can use this for other lenses and add a matte box etc. A decent tripod is also a must and a steady hand goes a long way but at extreme telephoto on a windy day, don't expect too much! Gareth Trezise

March 21st, 2004, 02:22 PM	#1175
Jim Wilson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cobh, County Cork, Ireland Posts: 3	Thank Gareth, I checked out the web site. Its exactly what I have been searching for on the net for some time. Jim

March 25th, 2004, 03:23 AM	#1179
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	No-one knows. Even if a replacement hits the market the XL1S will still be in stores around the world for some time (due to stock). Resell value is also unknown, but the "old" XL1 still has a good resell value over the XL1S to give you an indication. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 26th, 2004, 12:36 AM	#1180
Norman Woo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brossard, Quebec, Canada Posts: 147	What Wide Angle adapter to use on an XL1 on a Glidecam V16? Hi folks Which wide angle adapter to use on the XL1 for use on the Glidecam V16? Or should I go with the 3X lens? I understand that the 3X lens has no stabilization. But if I'll be flying the XL1 on the V16, I don't think I need the lens stabilization at all, right? Thanks

March 26th, 2004, 01:43 AM	#1181
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Correct, you won't need the lens stabilization with the Glidecam. 3x lens is great. The Century .7x zoom-through for the 16x lens is also great for its flexibility. The .6x is only partial zoom through so you would have to remove to shoot telephoto. Without having any idea what you are shooting, it's not an absolute necessity to shoot wide angle with a stabilizer--longer lens stuff can look terrific also. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

March 26th, 2004, 06:46 AM	#1182
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Chromakey and Normal/Frame Mode For those who have used the XL1s for green screen footage...what mode is better to use normal or frame mode...or does it really matter?

March 27th, 2004, 01:07 PM	#1183
Steve Zuns Tourist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1	trouble shooting Hey guys, here's a question... I'm using the MA-200 shoulder pack with my XL1S and i tried using an AKG C568 Shotgun mic. Obviously this mic need phantom power and i guess i was mistaken to think that the camera would provide this. How much power can the camera provide through the DC line to the shoulder pac. Also, as i am a novice, how do i get a phantom power mic to work with the camera? Thanks for you help. - Steve

March 28th, 2004, 04:24 AM	#1184
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Disclaimer: I haven't got any experience with this, so these thoughts are from thinking about it. I'd say shooting in interlacing is going to be hell with green screening. You can't do de-interlace before the green screen removal since it will probably mix green with your subject on the intersections. After the green screen removal there might not be enough information to do a very good interlacing removal. Shooting in interlaced does yield a resolution increase though. Why not run some tests? But my feeling tells me you should probably shoot in frame mode at high shutter speeds (to remove any motion blurring that will trouble your key extraction. And you can add motion blurring later to only the green screen layer anway). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 28th, 2004, 06:05 AM	#1185
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	The 5 volt output is spcifically intended for a few Canon accessories such as the MA-100, MA-200, a RFU (channel 3/4 output adapter) and some of the Canon mics. Most third party mics looking for phantom power expect 48 volts. Conecting another load to the 5-volt jack may cause problems if the load is excessive. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com