XL1 / XL1S various posts

Michael Mhanna · September 17th, 2003, 11:25 AM

I want to shoot a sunrise coming up in about 5 - 10 seconds. Instead of filming for an hour and speeding the footage up, I was wondering if there was a way to capture frames at intervals, much like a film camera, with the xl1s? Thanks!

Keith Loh · September 17th, 2003, 01:24 PM

Yes, it is called Interval Recording and is accessible from your menus. It is in the vcr setup submenu. It records 3 seconds out of every 30 seconds. So it will be a bit jerky. If you want something absolutely smooth I would record in real-time and switch tapes (something you can fix in editing easily). A programme like Scenalyzer can extract the relevant frames.

Dave Morrison · September 19th, 2003, 08:13 PM

Michael,
I don't know if you have a digital camera, but this page gave me the inspiration to buy the little Digisnap attachment for my Nikon 990. I'm working on a time lapse project right now that will combine footage from my XL1 and the 990. I'm hoping that the difference will not be too jarring!

http://www.digitalsecrets.net/secrets/Accessory.html

Best,
Dave

Barry Uddstrom · September 20th, 2003, 01:10 AM

It is recommended in my Sennheiser handbook, page 76 that the A17 helical antenna is used when the EK100 receiver is used on your camera. What is the reason for this, as it is a whip type antenna that came with my EK100 receiver.

Bryan Gateb · September 21st, 2003, 06:41 AM

i know this is a problem with the XL1; but is there any way around it?

Bryan Gateb · September 21st, 2003, 06:44 AM

nevermind; i answered my own question after running a search :P

mini-mount and system isolator -- where cna i purchase these online?

Richard Alvarez · September 21st, 2003, 03:15 PM

On a commercial shoot yesterday, we experienced a vertical band of digital breakup along the right side of the frame prior to shooting. We cleaned the heads, and all seemed right. We shot the first tape, and all looked good. Shot the second tape, and the breakup was present throughout the tape along the right side of the frame.This breakup was not visible during shooting. A third tape loaded after the second, recorded just fine.

The breakup is a band of blocky colors, in a "sawtooth" pattern along the right edge of the frame.

Any thoughts on the cause? Is this tape related, head alignment, one time problem? Cam is running solid now.

Shooting Fuji tapes only, Xl1 (NOT Xl1s). Camera last serviced last year.

Thanks canon watchdogs...

Frank Granovski · September 21st, 2003, 04:17 PM

Sounds like a typical drop-out to me. There could be something wrong with part of the tape, the heads could be dirty and need to be cleaned professionally, or there's something wrong with the heads (which may need to be servived).

Juergen Hansen · September 22nd, 2003, 09:05 AM

I have bought a wireless audio system from AKG.
AKG PT40 (transmitter) and AKG PR40 (receiver). The receiver (-6dBm (10k?) requieres a line input at the camera, the Canon XL1 has this (-11dbV / 47k?). I am not a sound engineer. The sound is very bad, lots of backround noise.
I appreciate any advice from someone who has used AKG before or is successfully using another wireless solution.
Thanks,
Juergen Hansen

Nathan Gifford · September 22nd, 2003, 12:14 PM

You may need to run the input into Audio 1 (the switch under the audio door). You might want to work with the settings. You may need to make sure you have the audio in manual and reduce the gain.

Normally, I run the audio in 12 bit mode and use the sub tracks (audio 2). The system I use is the Sennheiser EW112p.

Jacko Bultinck · September 22nd, 2003, 01:30 PM

After reading a whole lot of threads, here on DVI:

regarding "frame mode shooting", can I conclude, ( I use a PAL XL1s), that if I DON't use 16:9, and stay at 25i/s, and not too high shutterspeed, my images will stay sharp , with no quality loss, even after being postproduced, and transferred for broadband use?
Or di I still miss something, all is a bit confusing on that subject..!?

many thanks, for any help clearing this out.

Jacko

Ken Tanaka · September 22nd, 2003, 02:17 PM

See this thread.

Juan P. Pertierra · September 22nd, 2003, 09:27 PM

Ok, I recently have the oportunity to get a PAL XL1s for a great price, and i was wondering if this will work:

1.Capture 25"p" in frame mode, 16x9
2.Load into computer via firewire, and edit video.
a.Slow it down to 24fps, stretch sound 4%
(or capture sound separately on a DAT)
3.In order to not loose 4:2:0 color space, leave as a 24p quicktime or dub to a DigiBeta(4:2:2) tape.

will this work without loosing any color info? since i want to shoot 16x9, i figured PAL would give me the extra resolution that I would loose doing the matting in NTSC, plus the better color info.

My other question is, can I put the final product in a 24p DVD without loosing the 4:2:0 color info(down to 4:1:0 or whatever)?

Thanks,
Juan

Dany Nativel · September 22nd, 2003, 10:17 PM

See my post at
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=14794
with a link to streaming video (the second one hasn't been color corrected).

Basically I did what you are describing (PAL, Frame, Widescreen) but with a XM2.

For the color correction I stayed in DV format even if there are some compression artifacts after few generations. I didn't want to go to a lossless format (Quicktime for example) due to the different color space (I'm still investigating on this question).

I'm very pleased by the result especially because I can burn a 24p NTSC DVD as well as a 50i PAL DVD without any hassle.

Slowing down the audio track was in fact the trickiest part. My audio track was saturated and contained guitar, bass and voice but there are some damn good third-party tools that can deal with that.

Dany

Mark Mitchell · September 23rd, 2003, 04:43 AM

Hi,

I just bought a Nebtek Moitor for my xl-1. The problem i am getting is diagonal interference from the composite video. Although its not appalling its noticeable on the monitor makes it harder to use. The diagonal noise moves and seems to change direction. I have tried everything I know to sort this problem out, it reminds me of my TV when the AV is not the correct channel and i get a very similar effect. Im a bit gutted as I was looking forward to using my nice new nebtek monitor :( Any peopl had similar problems?

Any Help appreciated.

September 17th, 2003, 11:25 AM	#931
Michael Mhanna Tourist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ca Posts: 3	Canon Xl1s - Time Elapse features? I want to shoot a sunrise coming up in about 5 - 10 seconds. Instead of filming for an hour and speeding the footage up, I was wondering if there was a way to capture frames at intervals, much like a film camera, with the xl1s? Thanks!

September 17th, 2003, 01:24 PM	#932
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Yes, it is called Interval Recording and is accessible from your menus. It is in the vcr setup submenu. It records 3 seconds out of every 30 seconds. So it will be a bit jerky. If you want something absolutely smooth I would record in real-time and switch tapes (something you can fix in editing easily). A programme like Scenalyzer can extract the relevant frames. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

September 20th, 2003, 01:10 AM	#934
Barry Uddstrom Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Zealand Greymouth Posts: 39	Sennheiser EK100 Antenna It is recommended in my Sennheiser handbook, page 76 that the A17 helical antenna is used when the EK100 receiver is used on your camera. What is the reason for this, as it is a whip type antenna that came with my EK100 receiver.

September 21st, 2003, 06:41 AM	#935
Bryan Gateb Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indian Wells, CA Posts: 27	XL1 Servo Noise i know this is a problem with the XL1; but is there any way around it?

September 21st, 2003, 03:15 PM	#937
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Digital Breakup On a commercial shoot yesterday, we experienced a vertical band of digital breakup along the right side of the frame prior to shooting. We cleaned the heads, and all seemed right. We shot the first tape, and all looked good. Shot the second tape, and the breakup was present throughout the tape along the right side of the frame.This breakup was not visible during shooting. A third tape loaded after the second, recorded just fine. The breakup is a band of blocky colors, in a "sawtooth" pattern along the right edge of the frame. Any thoughts on the cause? Is this tape related, head alignment, one time problem? Cam is running solid now. Shooting Fuji tapes only, Xl1 (NOT Xl1s). Camera last serviced last year. Thanks canon watchdogs...

September 19th, 2003, 08:13 PM	#933
Dave Morrison Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: West Central Florida Posts: 762	Michael, I don't know if you have a digital camera, but this page gave me the inspiration to buy the little Digisnap attachment for my Nikon 990. I'm working on a time lapse project right now that will combine footage from my XL1 and the 990. I'm hoping that the difference will not be too jarring! http://www.digitalsecrets.net/secrets/Accessory.html Best, Dave

September 21st, 2003, 06:44 AM	#936
Bryan Gateb Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Indian Wells, CA Posts: 27	nevermind; i answered my own question after running a search :P mini-mount and system isolator -- where cna i purchase these online?

September 21st, 2003, 04:17 PM	#938
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Sounds like a typical drop-out to me. There could be something wrong with part of the tape, the heads could be dirty and need to be cleaned professionally, or there's something wrong with the heads (which may need to be servived).

September 22nd, 2003, 09:05 AM	#939
Juergen Hansen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South of France Posts: 64	Wireless Audio with XL1 I have bought a wireless audio system from AKG. AKG PT40 (transmitter) and AKG PR40 (receiver). The receiver (-6dBm (10k?) requieres a line input at the camera, the Canon XL1 has this (-11dbV / 47k?). I am not a sound engineer. The sound is very bad, lots of backround noise. I appreciate any advice from someone who has used AKG before or is successfully using another wireless solution. Thanks, Juergen Hansen __________________ Jürgen Hansen http://www.prospecttv.de http://www.youtube.com/prospecttv http://www.youtube.com/prospecttv3D

September 22nd, 2003, 12:14 PM	#940
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	You may need to run the input into Audio 1 (the switch under the audio door). You might want to work with the settings. You may need to make sure you have the audio in manual and reduce the gain. Normally, I run the audio in 12 bit mode and use the sub tracks (audio 2). The system I use is the Sennheiser EW112p. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

September 22nd, 2003, 01:30 PM	#941
Jacko Bultinck Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: belgium Posts: 30	frame mode conclusion ... After reading a whole lot of threads, here on DVI: regarding "frame mode shooting", can I conclude, ( I use a PAL XL1s), that if I DON't use 16:9, and stay at 25i/s, and not too high shutterspeed, my images will stay sharp , with no quality loss, even after being postproduced, and transferred for broadband use? Or di I still miss something, all is a bit confusing on that subject..!? many thanks, for any help clearing this out. Jacko __________________ http://www.waxworld.be

September 22nd, 2003, 02:17 PM	#942
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	See this thread. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

September 22nd, 2003, 09:27 PM	#943
Juan P. Pertierra Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 479	Will this work? (PAL) Ok, I recently have the oportunity to get a PAL XL1s for a great price, and i was wondering if this will work: 1.Capture 25"p" in frame mode, 16x9 2.Load into computer via firewire, and edit video. a.Slow it down to 24fps, stretch sound 4% (or capture sound separately on a DAT) 3.In order to not loose 4:2:0 color space, leave as a 24p quicktime or dub to a DigiBeta(4:2:2) tape. will this work without loosing any color info? since i want to shoot 16x9, i figured PAL would give me the extra resolution that I would loose doing the matting in NTSC, plus the better color info. My other question is, can I put the final product in a 24p DVD without loosing the 4:2:0 color info(down to 4:1:0 or whatever)? Thanks, Juan

September 22nd, 2003, 10:17 PM	#944
Dany Nativel Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Odenton, MD Posts: 106	See my post at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=14794 with a link to streaming video (the second one hasn't been color corrected). Basically I did what you are describing (PAL, Frame, Widescreen) but with a XM2. For the color correction I stayed in DV format even if there are some compression artifacts after few generations. I didn't want to go to a lossless format (Quicktime for example) due to the different color space (I'm still investigating on this question). I'm very pleased by the result especially because I can burn a 24p NTSC DVD as well as a 50i PAL DVD without any hassle. Slowing down the audio track was in fact the trickiest part. My audio track was saturated and contained guitar, bass and voice but there are some damn good third-party tools that can deal with that. Dany

September 23rd, 2003, 04:43 AM	#945
Mark Mitchell Tourist Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1	Nebtek Fuzzy Composite Problem Hi, I just bought a Nebtek Moitor for my xl-1. The problem i am getting is diagonal interference from the composite video. Although its not appalling its noticeable on the monitor makes it harder to use. The diagonal noise moves and seems to change direction. I have tried everything I know to sort this problem out, it reminds me of my TV when the AV is not the correct channel and i get a very similar effect. Im a bit gutted as I was looking forward to using my nice new nebtek monitor :( Any peopl had similar problems? Any Help appreciated.