XL1 / XL1S various posts

Michael Dalton · July 25th, 2003, 10:25 AM

I saw this post from a few weeks ago, and have just bought a 35-350mm lens, and now need a support system for it.

The lens is much heavier then the standard xl lens, so I would hate to bump it for fear of breaking the ef adapter.

Michael

Ulf Widen · July 25th, 2003, 11:28 AM

Hello, I have a parabolic microphone made by Telinga and I have used it for recording birdsongs on a Sony DAT-recorder. Now I want to connect the microphone to my XL1. The microphone has a 3,5 mm miniplugg(stereo). I prefer to use the line-input and skip the onboard mic-amp. Is there any preamp on the market that I can use? 3,5 ministereo in and RCA-line-out. Beachtek produced a preamp before, but I can´t find it on there web-site.
I use an EOS 100-400 IS L - zoom with adapter for shooting birds. To match that I will use the parabolic mic on a separate tripod.

Thanks

Ulf Widén
Sweden

Jeff Donald · July 26th, 2003, 02:17 PM

It might do the trick. Several people have asked for pictures of my support. I have design several over the years. If you know someone with a machine shop you can have a bracket like mine made for well under $100. You can down load the pictures from my .Mac iDisk here.

The jpegs are in a folder called bracket for XL1

Barrett Bilotta · July 27th, 2003, 04:07 PM

Please take a look at the July issue of American Cinematographer. In the article, "All the Rage", DFF Dod Mantle, discusses shooting the film "28 Days Later", and how he used eight Canon XL-1 Mini DV cameras with 35mm film lenses. He secured Canon EC (6-40mm) and Canon EJ (50-150mm) lenses to the camera bodies with a PL to XL-1 Adaptor. Though he did not use our mount, I do believe he recognized the quality that can be obtained using the XL1 with 35mm motion picture lenses.

As you know 35mm motion picture lenses can be expensive to rent or buy. That is why we have been working upon converting the Russian Lomo and Konvas 35mm lenses to a PL mount. This is a cost effect Solution for the Independent Filmmaker.

Also take a look at this music video titled "he war" by Cat Power. The director used a PL to XL-1 adaptor to shoot it. You will need Real Player to view the video.

http://www.cissme.com/bgroup-us/rm/m...7-2-07_rvh.ram

Thanks
Barrett

Ulf Widen · July 28th, 2003, 08:22 AM

Does anyone know if the wake-up button(On) is working like the one at XL1 so I can turn it back to standby mode? Any suggestion which model works best with XL1. I mostly shoot in manual mode and manual focus.

Thanks
Ulf Widen

Walter Colby · July 29th, 2003, 09:38 PM

I own a canon XL1s, I am not happy with the "infinite" focus ring of the standard lens.

I am looking in to purchasing the 16X manual lens.

Is there a way to mount, say a Fujinon tv lens on the XL1s?

Is there an adapter out there that can do this ?

Adrian Douglas · July 30th, 2003, 12:26 AM

Walter,

There are no adapters for mounting Fujinon or Canon 1/2" lenses to the XL1. The main problem is the zoom drive/handgrip mounted on the lens will not fit due to the handgrip on the XL1. There is actually a 14x Fujinon lens that has been modified to fit the XL1 as well as a Canon 14x manual lens, and if you put that into our search function you will find a couple for sale for around US$800-1000. This lens is not as desirable as the Canon XL manual lens but it can be had for half the price.

Jan De Wever · July 30th, 2003, 12:47 PM

Without wanting to sound like a plug, it is one ;-) I had been looking for info on this combo for the XL1 but couldn't find much. So I spent the cash, bought two Hytron 50 batteries, an Ultra Light 2, a charger and the mounting plate to install it on the XL1.

I've been using it for 2 months now and like it a lot. You can read all about it on abcdv.com, complete with pictures.

Enjoy it!

Rob Lohman · July 30th, 2003, 01:27 PM

Why do you want to skip the camera's pre-amp?

Ulf Widen · July 30th, 2003, 11:13 PM

Thanks for your reply. On the parabolic microphone I use a special made DAT-mic which is very quiet and free from noise. Usually on consumer or prosumer products the preamp is one part which is not optmal made. A noisless preamp with high dynamic range and portable is costly and difficult to made, due to the low signal input. For normal record there is not an issue, but in a nature environment there it's "totally silent" it becomes an issue. Unfortunatly there is few places left to be silent now.

Mike Murri · August 1st, 2003, 06:01 PM

Okay, I got over my connection problems...thanks to Nathan. I can now hear the sound with the wireless system hooked up. The audio monitor shows I'm getting sound, I've tried all different settings....my problem;;;during playback (on TV) I don't have the wireless sound, only the sound from the on camera mic.

Any thoughts.....anyone?

Thanks for your time.

Mike Murri

Mike Murri · August 1st, 2003, 07:14 PM

Well, believe it or not I have it all figured out. Solution, when playing back on the TV plug audio into (L) RCA on Audio 2 and the other audio (red) into Audio 1, with video in 1 as well.....and I'll be...sound from both sources!

Amazing how when you do the correct thing it all works. I just wish there was an idiots guide to Audio. I'm starting to understand how involved this all is. Wow.

mm

Andrew Petrie · August 3rd, 2003, 08:01 AM

I thought I'd save a lot of $ buying a canare RCA-XLR 1.5' cable, instead of a couple hundred dollars on an MA-100 or 200. My ME66 produces a bit of a hiss, partially due to the AA battery inside the capsule I'm sure, but does anyone think this was a bad idea?
Is there anything special about the wiring inside MA units that help with sound quality? To me, they don't look like anything special, but if they will help with sound quality I'll consider one.

James Clarke · August 3rd, 2003, 04:47 PM

My xl1s is telling me in the view finder to check lense what does this mean
I tried another lense on it and it still gives me the same error
I tried my lense on another cam and it works fine\

James

Mark A. Foley · August 4th, 2003, 11:57 AM

One of my cameras from a shoot yesterday that was getting its audio feed from the house sound board. During capture to my NLE I noticed the audio sounds similiar to an old cassette that starts to drag. The video looks just fine....
The feed I was using was coming from a generous amount of signal processing equipment before it got to my camera. I'm almost sure it had to do the house feed. Testing later showed no problems feeding a audio source to the camera...playback sounded perfect. Thoughts?

July 25th, 2003, 10:25 AM	#856
Michael Dalton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Torotnto, Canada Posts: 139	anyone use this? I saw this post from a few weeks ago, and have just bought a 35-350mm lens, and now need a support system for it. The lens is much heavier then the standard xl lens, so I would hate to bump it for fear of breaking the ef adapter. Michael

July 25th, 2003, 11:28 AM	#857
Ulf Widen Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hallstahammar, Sweden Posts: 4	Preamp to a parabolic microphone Hello, I have a parabolic microphone made by Telinga and I have used it for recording birdsongs on a Sony DAT-recorder. Now I want to connect the microphone to my XL1. The microphone has a 3,5 mm miniplugg(stereo). I prefer to use the line-input and skip the onboard mic-amp. Is there any preamp on the market that I can use? 3,5 ministereo in and RCA-line-out. Beachtek produced a preamp before, but I can´t find it on there web-site. I use an EOS 100-400 IS L - zoom with adapter for shooting birds. To match that I will use the parabolic mic on a separate tripod. Thanks Ulf Widén Sweden

July 26th, 2003, 02:17 PM	#858
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	It might do the trick. Several people have asked for pictures of my support. I have design several over the years. If you know someone with a machine shop you can have a bracket like mine made for well under $100. You can down load the pictures from my .Mac iDisk here. The jpegs are in a folder called bracket for XL1 __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 27th, 2003, 04:07 PM	#859
Barrett Bilotta XL1 Solutions Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 28	Feature Film "28 Days Later" Shot with PL to XL-1 Adaptor Please take a look at the July issue of American Cinematographer. In the article, "All the Rage", DFF Dod Mantle, discusses shooting the film "28 Days Later", and how he used eight Canon XL-1 Mini DV cameras with 35mm film lenses. He secured Canon EC (6-40mm) and Canon EJ (50-150mm) lenses to the camera bodies with a PL to XL-1 Adaptor. Though he did not use our mount, I do believe he recognized the quality that can be obtained using the XL1 with 35mm motion picture lenses. As you know 35mm motion picture lenses can be expensive to rent or buy. That is why we have been working upon converting the Russian Lomo and Konvas 35mm lenses to a PL mount. This is a cost effect Solution for the Independent Filmmaker. Also take a look at this music video titled "he war" by Cat Power. The director used a PL to XL-1 adaptor to shoot it. You will need Real Player to view the video. http://www.cissme.com/bgroup-us/rm/m...7-2-07_rvh.ram Thanks Barrett __________________ please visit our site at http://www.xl1solutions.com

July 28th, 2003, 08:22 AM	#860
Ulf Widen Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hallstahammar, Sweden Posts: 4	VariZoom Does anyone know if the wake-up button(On) is working like the one at XL1 so I can turn it back to standby mode? Any suggestion which model works best with XL1. I mostly shoot in manual mode and manual focus. Thanks Ulf Widen __________________ Ulf Widén Sweden

July 29th, 2003, 09:38 PM	#861
Walter Colby Tourist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: san Jose, CA. Posts: 1	"new guy" Is there an adapter for.... I own a canon XL1s, I am not happy with the "infinite" focus ring of the standard lens. I am looking in to purchasing the 16X manual lens. Is there a way to mount, say a Fujinon tv lens on the XL1s? Is there an adapter out there that can do this ?

July 30th, 2003, 12:26 AM	#862
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Walter, There are no adapters for mounting Fujinon or Canon 1/2" lenses to the XL1. The main problem is the zoom drive/handgrip mounted on the lens will not fit due to the handgrip on the XL1. There is actually a 14x Fujinon lens that has been modified to fit the XL1 as well as a Canon 14x manual lens, and if you put that into our search function you will find a couple for sale for around US$800-1000. This lens is not as desirable as the Canon XL manual lens but it can be had for half the price. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

July 30th, 2003, 12:47 PM	#863
Jan De Wever ABCDV.com -- Top DV Resource Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kessel-Lo, Belgium (near Brussels) Posts: 27	abcdv.com news: review of Anton Bauer Hytron 50 and Ultra Light 2 with the XL1 Without wanting to sound like a plug, it is one ;-) I had been looking for info on this combo for the XL1 but couldn't find much. So I spent the cash, bought two Hytron 50 batteries, an Ultra Light 2, a charger and the mounting plate to install it on the XL1. I've been using it for 2 months now and like it a lot. You can read all about it on abcdv.com, complete with pictures. Enjoy it! __________________ Jan De Wever, Belgium webmaster www.abcdv.com

July 30th, 2003, 01:27 PM	#864
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Why do you want to skip the camera's pre-amp? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 30th, 2003, 11:13 PM	#865
Ulf Widen Tourist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hallstahammar, Sweden Posts: 4	Thanks for your reply. On the parabolic microphone I use a special made DAT-mic which is very quiet and free from noise. Usually on consumer or prosumer products the preamp is one part which is not optmal made. A noisless preamp with high dynamic range and portable is costly and difficult to made, due to the low signal input. For normal record there is not an issue, but in a nature environment there it's "totally silent" it becomes an issue. Unfortunatly there is few places left to be silent now. __________________ Ulf Widén Sweden

August 1st, 2003, 06:01 PM	#866
Mike Murri New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 13	More questions about Sennheiser ew100 wireless Okay, I got over my connection problems...thanks to Nathan. I can now hear the sound with the wireless system hooked up. The audio monitor shows I'm getting sound, I've tried all different settings....my problem;;;during playback (on TV) I don't have the wireless sound, only the sound from the on camera mic. Any thoughts.....anyone? Thanks for your time. Mike Murri

August 1st, 2003, 07:14 PM	#867
Mike Murri New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bozeman, Montana Posts: 13	Well, believe it or not I have it all figured out. Solution, when playing back on the TV plug audio into (L) RCA on Audio 2 and the other audio (red) into Audio 1, with video in 1 as well.....and I'll be...sound from both sources! Amazing how when you do the correct thing it all works. I just wish there was an idiots guide to Audio. I'm starting to understand how involved this all is. Wow. mm

August 3rd, 2003, 08:01 AM	#868
Andrew Petrie Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 484	MA-x00 vs cable adapters I thought I'd save a lot of $ buying a canare RCA-XLR 1.5' cable, instead of a couple hundred dollars on an MA-100 or 200. My ME66 produces a bit of a hiss, partially due to the AA battery inside the capsule I'm sure, but does anyone think this was a bad idea? Is there anything special about the wiring inside MA units that help with sound quality? To me, they don't look like anything special, but if they will help with sound quality I'll consider one. __________________ Andrew \| Canon XL1s, ME66, Vinten Vision 3, GlideCam V16 (for sale!)

August 3rd, 2003, 04:47 PM	#869
James Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BARBADOS Posts: 125 Images: 4	Check Lense error My xl1s is telling me in the view finder to check lense what does this mean I tried another lense on it and it still gives me the same error I tried my lense on another cam and it works fine\ James

August 4th, 2003, 11:57 AM	#870
Mark A. Foley Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bonaire, Ga. Posts: 356	Dragging audio One of my cameras from a shoot yesterday that was getting its audio feed from the house sound board. During capture to my NLE I noticed the audio sounds similiar to an old cassette that starts to drag. The video looks just fine.... The feed I was using was coming from a generous amount of signal processing equipment before it got to my camera. I'm almost sure it had to do the house feed. Testing later showed no problems feeding a audio source to the camera...playback sounded perfect. Thoughts?