XL1 / XL1S various posts

guerrapato · March 6th, 2003, 08:51 AM

HOW good are the AZDEN Mics?? for the Xl1s with beachtek???

guerrapato · March 6th, 2003, 10:12 AM

Azden is cheaper! Is it as good as the ME66

Nathan Gifford · March 6th, 2003, 01:17 PM

There are plenty of posts on the Azden. They work fine with the XL-1. If you would like to read more try Azden Search Results.

Brian M. Dickman · March 6th, 2003, 03:52 PM

According to the LAFCPUG, no, the Azden is not as good. They do a lineup of 3 shotgun mics. It's probably been linked to from here before.

http://www.lafcpug.org/review_shotgun_mic.html

Don Palomaki · March 6th, 2003, 05:45 PM

Depends on which Azden mic, Some are a lot better than others. Keep inmind that Azden is a consumer/prosumer product line, and none will match the ME66/K6 for example.

Also, some folks have encountered level issues with the SGM-X. It has a relatively high output impedance.

Christopher Hughes · March 7th, 2003, 07:29 PM

I have seen that site before, but its always good to get other opinions. Anyone know of any other sites with MIC comparisin tests???????

Dan Keaton · March 12th, 2003, 05:05 AM

I wish to record at least 4 microphones on separate tracks. I will also be recording ambient sound via the XL1s on two 16 bit tracks.

Since I want to record in 16 bits or higher, I need to use a separate audio recorder. I would prefer to use 24 bit recording.

I am considering a TASCAM TM-D1000 digital mixer and a TASCAM DA-78HR 24 bit (8 channel) recorder.

I welcome other thoughts and recommendations from this forum.

Don Palomaki · March 12th, 2003, 05:23 AM

What are you recording? What is the venue?

Dan Keaton · March 12th, 2003, 05:29 AM

Dear Don,

I want to be flexible. Some will be an Elvis Tribute artist, live. Others will be presentations, meetings, racing events, etc.

I want to do the mix after it is recorded on separate tracks.

Rick Noll · March 15th, 2003, 04:05 PM

Please help!!!

I am new to this group but am looking forward to reading all the interesting tech info I see here.

I am a Bigfoot researcher (since 1972) and have been in about 6 documentaries on the subject. I have not been the happiest with the results and so am working towards making my own documentary. I am going to school to learn how to do this and have started getting the equipment. I am not rich but I try to get the best equipment I can to do the job. Right now I have a problem...

I have an XL1s with a MA-100 attached. It has the regular size XLR female plugs, but I have a Sony ECM-55SPT/ECM-55BPT electret condenser lav mic I want to hook up with it by way of cable and it has a mini XLR female plug.

Question:

Is there an adapter available and do I need it to have phantom power? The paper work with the mic says it is hooked up one of two ways... with power requirements either 1.5v or 5v, I don't understand this... either it is one way or the other I thought. It states the mic cable is :2.3mm(3/32in.) dia., 3m (10ft.) long 2-conductor shielded cable (pig tail)."

Two of the film's I was in, used film (16mm and 35mm) but even they used this lav setup. Sometimes they had the lav hooked up to a wireless but the static soundbites were with a corded lav.

Thanks
Rick Noll

Ken Tanaka · March 15th, 2003, 07:16 PM

Welcome Rick,
I think the connector that you're looking for is called a "P3" connector. I also recently searched for such an adapter and found them for sale on Samson's site. Perhaps this will work for you, too.

But I have two Sony ECM-55B lavs, just a bit different from yours, which have an inline power adapter (ie. battery holder) that plugs between the mics and the camera. I actually believe that this is what you'll need, too. My mics came with this adapter but you may be able to buy them separately. Check with Sony's site and/or B&H Photo's site to see if the adapter is available separately.

Mike Bluestone · March 16th, 2003, 06:46 AM

Does anyone know of a lightweight tracking solution, something like GripControl's "e-track", just for tracks of up to 3 feet. Something that could be mounted on a tripod, and take about 4 kilos of camera (mini 35, XL1S and Nikon prime lens). The GripControl e-track is just too heavy and a little too big.

John Threat · March 16th, 2003, 08:10 AM

I made a mistake and purchased the HC-3100? System Hard case from Canon for my camera. It's kinda small and better fitted to being case for some lights than a camera.

i found a way to pack in the ma-200, cavision matte box, microphones , cords, tapes, batteies, tape etc. to be honest, it fits best when i leave the lens and B&W viewfinder on, because there is no place left in the bottom of the box for it seperately.

Is there a roomier case anyone can recommend?

Jeff Donald · March 16th, 2003, 11:42 AM

ETrack is the only one I'm aware of, but I'm sure there are others. You might check with some of the big rental houses. You could probably build a short, light duty one for under $500.

Chris Hurd · March 16th, 2003, 09:15 PM

Here are some XL1 hardshell case options.

March 6th, 2003, 08:51 AM	#736
guerrapato New Boot Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 9	Azden Mics HOW good are the AZDEN Mics?? for the Xl1s with beachtek???

March 6th, 2003, 10:12 AM	#737
guerrapato New Boot Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 9	Azden Mic vs. ME66 ??? anyone... Azden is cheaper! Is it as good as the ME66

March 6th, 2003, 01:17 PM	#738
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	There are plenty of posts on the Azden. They work fine with the XL-1. If you would like to read more try Azden Search Results. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

March 12th, 2003, 05:05 AM	#742
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Multitrack Recording Advice Requested I wish to record at least 4 microphones on separate tracks. I will also be recording ambient sound via the XL1s on two 16 bit tracks. Since I want to record in 16 bits or higher, I need to use a separate audio recorder. I would prefer to use 24 bit recording. I am considering a TASCAM TM-D1000 digital mixer and a TASCAM DA-78HR 24 bit (8 channel) recorder. I welcome other thoughts and recommendations from this forum. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

March 12th, 2003, 05:29 AM	#744
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Don, I want to be flexible. Some will be an Elvis Tribute artist, live. Others will be presentations, meetings, racing events, etc. I want to do the mix after it is recorded on separate tracks. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

March 6th, 2003, 03:52 PM	#739
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	According to the LAFCPUG, no, the Azden is not as good. They do a lineup of 3 shotgun mics. It's probably been linked to from here before. http://www.lafcpug.org/review_shotgun_mic.html

March 6th, 2003, 05:45 PM	#740
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Depends on which Azden mic, Some are a lot better than others. Keep inmind that Azden is a consumer/prosumer product line, and none will match the ME66/K6 for example. Also, some folks have encountered level issues with the SGM-X. It has a relatively high output impedance.

March 7th, 2003, 07:29 PM	#741
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	I have seen that site before, but its always good to get other opinions. Anyone know of any other sites with MIC comparisin tests???????

March 12th, 2003, 05:23 AM	#743
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	What are you recording? What is the venue?

March 15th, 2003, 04:05 PM	#745
Rick Noll Tourist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 1	Mini XLR to XLR adapters Please help!!! I am new to this group but am looking forward to reading all the interesting tech info I see here. I am a Bigfoot researcher (since 1972) and have been in about 6 documentaries on the subject. I have not been the happiest with the results and so am working towards making my own documentary. I am going to school to learn how to do this and have started getting the equipment. I am not rich but I try to get the best equipment I can to do the job. Right now I have a problem... I have an XL1s with a MA-100 attached. It has the regular size XLR female plugs, but I have a Sony ECM-55SPT/ECM-55BPT electret condenser lav mic I want to hook up with it by way of cable and it has a mini XLR female plug. Question: Is there an adapter available and do I need it to have phantom power? The paper work with the mic says it is hooked up one of two ways... with power requirements either 1.5v or 5v, I don't understand this... either it is one way or the other I thought. It states the mic cable is :2.3mm(3/32in.) dia., 3m (10ft.) long 2-conductor shielded cable (pig tail)." Two of the film's I was in, used film (16mm and 35mm) but even they used this lav setup. Sometimes they had the lav hooked up to a wireless but the static soundbites were with a corded lav. Thanks Rick Noll

March 15th, 2003, 07:16 PM	#746
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Welcome Rick, I think the connector that you're looking for is called a "P3" connector. I also recently searched for such an adapter and found them for sale on Samson's site. Perhaps this will work for you, too. But I have two Sony ECM-55B lavs, just a bit different from yours, which have an inline power adapter (ie. battery holder) that plugs between the mics and the camera. I actually believe that this is what you'll need, too. My mics came with this adapter but you may be able to buy them separately. Check with Sony's site and/or B&H Photo's site to see if the adapter is available separately. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 16th, 2003, 06:46 AM	#747
Mike Bluestone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Malaga, Spain Posts: 42	lightweight tracking solution Does anyone know of a lightweight tracking solution, something like GripControl's "e-track", just for tracks of up to 3 feet. Something that could be mounted on a tripod, and take about 4 kilos of camera (mini 35, XL1S and Nikon prime lens). The GripControl e-track is just too heavy and a little too big.

March 16th, 2003, 08:10 AM	#748
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	Outgrowning Case? I made a mistake and purchased the HC-3100? System Hard case from Canon for my camera. It's kinda small and better fitted to being case for some lights than a camera. i found a way to pack in the ma-200, cavision matte box, microphones , cords, tapes, batteies, tape etc. to be honest, it fits best when i leave the lens and B&W viewfinder on, because there is no place left in the bottom of the box for it seperately. Is there a roomier case anyone can recommend?

March 16th, 2003, 11:42 AM	#749
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	ETrack is the only one I'm aware of, but I'm sure there are others. You might check with some of the big rental houses. You could probably build a short, light duty one for under $500. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 16th, 2003, 09:15 PM	#750
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Here are some XL1 hardshell case options. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!