XL1 / XL1S various posts

Mark Bournes · December 8th, 2006, 08:29 AM

Chad, it's good, especially for no budget, give yourself a pat on the back. The pacing is really good. You kept it simple and it works well with the song. Good job.

Chris Trainor · January 4th, 2007, 07:18 PM

i have an xl1s, and a panasonic SDX900 with footage shot in 50 bit dvc.

my dvc deck is having issues with the firewire port, and not working.

so my question is this...

can i run a bnc out of the SDX into the xl1s, and then thru the xl's firewire straight into my NLE? i want to capture this video via firewire that is working on the xls. but when i put the firewire in, the composite signal disappears.

is there a way to make it just pass thru the xls from the sdx into the nle w/o having to actually record it onto mini dv then dump down?

does this make sense?

thanks!

Chris Trainor · January 4th, 2007, 08:53 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...wire+composite

looks like it wont work?

Chris Hurd · January 4th, 2007, 11:12 PM

As that linked thread indicates, there is no pass-through on the XL1S. However, you can record on the XL1S from the analog inputs, and then rewind the tape and play it back out over FireWire.

Michael Sweeney · January 4th, 2007, 11:37 PM

just curious if this beachtek device will work with the xl1s.

DXA-6 Dual Phantom Adapter

Don Palomaki · January 5th, 2007, 05:45 AM

I've not used it, but it looks like is should work.

Waldemar Winkler · January 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM

Like Don, I have not used this device. However, the connection to the camera is identical to other beachtek products I have seen as well a my Sign Video version, which I have used on my XL1s with no issues.

Don Bazley · January 26th, 2007, 12:14 PM

I shot an interview for a documentary yesterday. I've had my XL1 for years but haven't been using it much because it's basically my "play" camera. The only time I've captured with it was systems at work. I now have a new system with the Adobe bundle at home.

I recorded ch. 1 cam mic (for backup) and ch.2 was a wireless via the XLR adaptor. Audio sounded fine in the field. Sounds fine now though phones. The problem is that via the firewire I can only hear the ch. 1 mic. I've played a bit with the monitor button and the audio out via the menu. I've only had a few minutes to look at it and I have to run out right now. I figured I'd post before I come back to look at it more later. Through the phones (using the audio monitor button) I can hear the good ch. 2 audio clearly, I just can't get it to go through the firewire. Any thoughts?

-Don

Waldemar Winkler · January 26th, 2007, 04:56 PM

I don't know Adobe. Use FCP. Nonethless, I believe all good NLE system allow selection of which audio tracks to capture in the project set up menu. Just a thought.

Don Palomaki · January 26th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Sounds like you did 4-channel sound. Many NLE/capture software combinations cannot capture 4-channel sound, only 2 channel.

If that is the case, an dif you do not have a NLE capture program that can deal with 4-channel audio, an option is to capture the Audio 2 channels via analog output form the camcorder.

Some folks use Scanalyzer (I think) to deal with 4-channel sound. You could do a search of the forum for more info.

Scott Lovejoy · January 28th, 2007, 03:06 PM

Hi,

I have an XL1S that I've used a few times, but not very extensively. I had shot a tape in it, and had a few others lying around. Recently, after the camera had sat for a little while, I tried to playback a tape in it. I turned the camera to VCR, like I normally do, and played a bit of the tape, but it was a blue screen. It seemed that the camera couldn't find the scenes I had shot. I went through a few other tapes that had footage on them (that I KNEW had footage), and still nothing. I've seen the tape cleaning suggestion, but could it really be that simple?

Any thoughts would be great, thanks.

Lorinda Norton · January 29th, 2007, 12:40 AM

Scott,

You won't hurt it by running a head cleaner just to see. If that doesn't help, give Canon a call. :)

Canon Factory Service
Attn: Video Service
100 Jamesburg Road
Jamesburg, NJ 08831
Tel: 732-521-7007

Scott Fien · January 29th, 2007, 10:58 AM

Here's one for ya: shooting on the XLS and preparing to load raw into the NLE. I remove the tape from the camera, and drop it into our Panasonic Mini DV deck. Video is crystal clear, audio pops with static, almost electronic noise - not at all clear. But hooking up the camera to the deck using component cables, playback through the camera and audio is perfect. What the heck?

Don Palomaki · January 30th, 2007, 05:24 PM

Error correction in the analog playback/output circuits that is not found on the digital output stream.

G. Scott Roberts · February 3rd, 2007, 08:26 PM

Hello all, have a new problem/question related to my XL1s... did a shoot today of a live military band playing on a well lit stage. I just got my camera back from Canon so just recorded the hour + on full auto. The stage was very well lit. The problem I had was that even though through the stock color viewfinder the colors looked good, playback on the TV or CPU was very bright. I viewed it through RCA to the TV and the uniforms are darker green (Army) and their heads are lighting up like a lightbulb. Also currently burning to CPU through the firewire and it is the same as the RCA, Bright! I know the video size in viewfinder is a bit smaller than what actually records, but I don't remember the video brightness being so different between the viewfinder and the external playback... any ideas?

December 8th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#1906
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	Chad, it's good, especially for no budget, give yourself a pat on the back. The pacing is really good. You kept it simple and it works well with the song. Good job. __________________ Mark www.sharkvp.com

January 4th, 2007, 07:18 PM	#1907
Chris Trainor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new orleans / baton rouge Posts: 46	xl1s as a pass thru? i have an xl1s, and a panasonic SDX900 with footage shot in 50 bit dvc. my dvc deck is having issues with the firewire port, and not working. so my question is this... can i run a bnc out of the SDX into the xl1s, and then thru the xl's firewire straight into my NLE? i want to capture this video via firewire that is working on the xls. but when i put the firewire in, the composite signal disappears. is there a way to make it just pass thru the xls from the sdx into the nle w/o having to actually record it onto mini dv then dump down? does this make sense? thanks!

January 4th, 2007, 11:12 PM	#1909
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	As that linked thread indicates, there is no pass-through on the XL1S. However, you can record on the XL1S from the analog inputs, and then rewind the tape and play it back out over FireWire. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 4th, 2007, 11:37 PM	#1910
Michael Sweeney Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 97	beachtek adapter? just curious if this beachtek device will work with the xl1s. DXA-6 Dual Phantom Adapter

January 5th, 2007, 05:45 AM	#1911
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	I've not used it, but it looks like is should work. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 4th, 2007, 08:53 PM	#1908
Chris Trainor Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: new orleans / baton rouge Posts: 46	http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...wire+composite looks like it wont work?

January 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM	#1912
Waldemar Winkler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durango, Colorado, USA Posts: 711	Like Don, I have not used this device. However, the connection to the camera is identical to other beachtek products I have seen as well a my Sign Video version, which I have used on my XL1s with no issues. __________________ Waldemar

January 26th, 2007, 12:14 PM	#1913
Don Bazley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 149	XL1- capturing audio I shot an interview for a documentary yesterday. I've had my XL1 for years but haven't been using it much because it's basically my "play" camera. The only time I've captured with it was systems at work. I now have a new system with the Adobe bundle at home. I recorded ch. 1 cam mic (for backup) and ch.2 was a wireless via the XLR adaptor. Audio sounded fine in the field. Sounds fine now though phones. The problem is that via the firewire I can only hear the ch. 1 mic. I've played a bit with the monitor button and the audio out via the menu. I've only had a few minutes to look at it and I have to run out right now. I figured I'd post before I come back to look at it more later. Through the phones (using the audio monitor button) I can hear the good ch. 2 audio clearly, I just can't get it to go through the firewire. Any thoughts? -Don

January 26th, 2007, 04:56 PM	#1914
Waldemar Winkler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durango, Colorado, USA Posts: 711	I don't know Adobe. Use FCP. Nonethless, I believe all good NLE system allow selection of which audio tracks to capture in the project set up menu. Just a thought. __________________ Waldemar

January 26th, 2007, 05:51 PM	#1915
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Sounds like you did 4-channel sound. Many NLE/capture software combinations cannot capture 4-channel sound, only 2 channel. If that is the case, an dif you do not have a NLE capture program that can deal with 4-channel audio, an option is to capture the Audio 2 channels via analog output form the camcorder. Some folks use Scanalyzer (I think) to deal with 4-channel sound. You could do a search of the forum for more info. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 28th, 2007, 03:06 PM	#1916
Scott Lovejoy Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 73	XL1S VCR not showing footage on playback Hi, I have an XL1S that I've used a few times, but not very extensively. I had shot a tape in it, and had a few others lying around. Recently, after the camera had sat for a little while, I tried to playback a tape in it. I turned the camera to VCR, like I normally do, and played a bit of the tape, but it was a blue screen. It seemed that the camera couldn't find the scenes I had shot. I went through a few other tapes that had footage on them (that I KNEW had footage), and still nothing. I've seen the tape cleaning suggestion, but could it really be that simple? Any thoughts would be great, thanks.

January 29th, 2007, 12:40 AM	#1917
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Scott, You won't hurt it by running a head cleaner just to see. If that doesn't help, give Canon a call. :) Canon Factory Service Attn: Video Service 100 Jamesburg Road Jamesburg, NJ 08831 Tel: 732-521-7007 __________________ Lorinda

January 29th, 2007, 10:58 AM	#1918
Scott Fien Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1	Proper audio playback through camera, not so much on DV deck Here's one for ya: shooting on the XLS and preparing to load raw into the NLE. I remove the tape from the camera, and drop it into our Panasonic Mini DV deck. Video is crystal clear, audio pops with static, almost electronic noise - not at all clear. But hooking up the camera to the deck using component cables, playback through the camera and audio is perfect. What the heck?

January 30th, 2007, 05:24 PM	#1919
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Error correction in the analog playback/output circuits that is not found on the digital output stream. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

February 3rd, 2007, 08:26 PM	#1920
G. Scott Roberts New Boot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lake Elsinore, CA Posts: 22	XL1s lighting issues Hello all, have a new problem/question related to my XL1s... did a shoot today of a live military band playing on a well lit stage. I just got my camera back from Canon so just recorded the hour + on full auto. The stage was very well lit. The problem I had was that even though through the stock color viewfinder the colors looked good, playback on the TV or CPU was very bright. I viewed it through RCA to the TV and the uniforms are darker green (Army) and their heads are lighting up like a lightbulb. Also currently burning to CPU through the firewire and it is the same as the RCA, Bright! I know the video size in viewfinder is a bit smaller than what actually records, but I don't remember the video brightness being so different between the viewfinder and the external playback... any ideas? __________________ Canon XL1s, Canon Digital Rebel, Misc. lenses and other toys... : )