XL1 / XL1S various posts

Manu Pinto · October 24th, 2005, 10:08 AM

i've, i think, a great problem.
i shoot my documentary with 1/25shutter. now i wanna change my materials in 25p (like panasonic dvx100). sorry my camera is a PAL XL1S .
do you know a solution?

Boyd Ostroff · October 24th, 2005, 11:14 AM

There are a number of software solutions for this. One of them is DVFilm Maker, however I think they suggest shooting at 1/50 shutter speed for best results: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/

Manu Pinto · October 25th, 2005, 01:40 AM

I explain better. I have already shooted, about 25 hours, to 1/25 shutter. I would like to remove part of the Riverbero on the images. I have used Magic Bullet V.2 but without visible results.
Some solution?

John Doran · October 25th, 2005, 04:42 AM

I am having problems setting up my new radio mic(seinnhiser 100) with the xl1s, i bought a MA200 for the camera.
question: can i have the onboard mic and the radio mics running together,can i switch/mix the "onboard mic" and the "radio mic"..... as in a wedding set-up. priest/onboard mic...groom/radio mic, will final cut express show the radio mic as two channels on the timeline or one channel, or wht would be the best set-up.
john.

John Doran · October 25th, 2005, 05:38 AM

Anyone Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don Palomaki · October 26th, 2005, 04:27 AM

Cannot speak to Final Cut Express. It should be covered in the program documentation.

See responses to your other post (moved to this forum).

They can run together, works best in 4-channel mode. But some NLE systems have difficulty with capture of 4-channel sound. You may not need to use the MA200 for audio input with the wireless mic.

Most event shooters find an onboard mic inadequate for recording voice of speakers if the camcorder is more than a few feet from the person speaking. A good shotgun mic can help some, but is not a full solution. Voice picked up from ambient sound is better if a good PA system is used, but tends to echo in large rooms such as churches.

A wireless mic on the groom will usually pickup the priest when he is speaking near (within a few feet) the groom. Wiring the priest often works better for several reasons. He speaks more often than the groom often at a distance from them, is usually near the groom and bride when they speak, and is usually used to wearing awireless mic. A perhaps minor point, grooms and groomsmen are more likely to make wisecracks while the mic is live that you may not want on the original tape.

Rich Herrin · October 28th, 2005, 08:52 AM

I know there's limitations with some video capture programs and Win FAT-32 in capturing 4-channel audio. When using "multiple" microphones, would it be feasible to use a Portable Microphone Mixer and have all audio recorded on 2-channel stero? I know to get stero, the mixer would need stero output or a two-line out-put that are duplicates to get simulated stero or even a splitter into L-R input from single output. Another question: When using the MA-100, can a Portable Mic Mixers line-out be connected to one or both XLR-in of the MA-100 or should it go directly into the camera by-passing the MA-100?

Don Palomaki · October 29th, 2005, 06:11 AM

You can use a field mixer to mix three or more sources to two channels and feed that to the XL1. Many people do that. It helps to have an experience sound person to manage the mix to be sure you get it right.

Beyond the cost of a good field mixer, the main down sides are that the mixer is one more piece of gear to manage in the field, and you cannot change the mix in post. With 4-channel recording you can adjust the mix of up to 4 devices when editing to get the sound balance you want.

Some people record audio to a separete device, e.g., DAT or MiniDisc, and synch the sound in post.

If the mixer has mic-level output, you can connect it to the MA-100, if not you need to pad the level to mic level, or feed it direct to the Audio 1 input with the XL1 input set to line level.

Rich Herrin · October 29th, 2005, 03:50 PM

It's nice to get a knowledgeable answerd to my questions and in a timely manner too. Thanks again.

Chris Hurd · November 6th, 2005, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hsu

Obviously, you need to have a tape in your camera in order to allow it to record. You can't tape DTE if you can't push the record button!

Sorry for the late response, but this isn't correct... you don't need a tape in the camera to run a DTE recorder. I assume we're talking about a FireStore... just put it in free run mode, and stop and start your recordings directly through the FireStore interface.

Karl Heiner · November 10th, 2005, 09:39 AM

i am sorry guys/ gals

have a black out...<G>

is the firewire on the xl-1s a 4 pin or a 6 pin.?

i am blank...

thanks

Don Palomaki · November 10th, 2005, 08:33 PM

Should be 4-pin at the camcorder

Steve Sweeney · November 11th, 2005, 05:40 PM

Greetings all,

I'm new to the forum and have found a lot of helpful information by browsing here.

I am in need of a new charger and extra batteries for my XL1. I saw the thread about inexpensive batteries on ebay but didn't see anyone mention third party chargers.

I'm looking at this unit on ebay and was just wondering if anyone has had experience with it or other aftermarket charges?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-BP-945-XL1...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks,
Steve

Don Palomaki · November 12th, 2005, 07:00 AM

I've used a Sima SMP-13 with success. My only complaint is its wall wart is big.

If you have differnt batteris for different gear, you may want to look for one that supports as many different battery types as you can.

The link information does not say much about the charger to help evaluate it.

Tony Sellars · November 14th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Any suggestions for an enexpensive on camera light? Would be used for indoor interviews. What about the Canon VL 10? Any advice would be appreciated.

October 24th, 2005, 10:08 AM	#1696
Manu Pinto New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	May be "a great question" i've, i think, a great problem. i shoot my documentary with 1/25shutter. now i wanna change my materials in 25p (like panasonic dvx100). sorry my camera is a PAL XL1S . do you know a solution?

October 25th, 2005, 04:42 AM	#1699
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 212	Xl1s/radio Mic/final Cut Express. I am having problems setting up my new radio mic(seinnhiser 100) with the xl1s, i bought a MA200 for the camera. question: can i have the onboard mic and the radio mics running together,can i switch/mix the "onboard mic" and the "radio mic"..... as in a wedding set-up. priest/onboard mic...groom/radio mic, will final cut express show the radio mic as two channels on the timeline or one channel, or wht would be the best set-up. john.

October 25th, 2005, 05:38 AM	#1700
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 212	Xl Anyone Know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 26th, 2005, 04:27 AM	#1701
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Cannot speak to Final Cut Express. It should be covered in the program documentation. See responses to your other post (moved to this forum). They can run together, works best in 4-channel mode. But some NLE systems have difficulty with capture of 4-channel sound. You may not need to use the MA200 for audio input with the wireless mic. Most event shooters find an onboard mic inadequate for recording voice of speakers if the camcorder is more than a few feet from the person speaking. A good shotgun mic can help some, but is not a full solution. Voice picked up from ambient sound is better if a good PA system is used, but tends to echo in large rooms such as churches. A wireless mic on the groom will usually pickup the priest when he is speaking near (within a few feet) the groom. Wiring the priest often works better for several reasons. He speaks more often than the groom often at a distance from them, is usually near the groom and bride when they speak, and is usually used to wearing awireless mic. A perhaps minor point, grooms and groomsmen are more likely to make wisecracks while the mic is live that you may not want on the original tape. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

October 28th, 2005, 08:52 AM	#1702
Rich Herrin New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	2-channel audio or 4-channel using 3 mics I know there's limitations with some video capture programs and Win FAT-32 in capturing 4-channel audio. When using "multiple" microphones, would it be feasible to use a Portable Microphone Mixer and have all audio recorded on 2-channel stero? I know to get stero, the mixer would need stero output or a two-line out-put that are duplicates to get simulated stero or even a splitter into L-R input from single output. Another question: When using the MA-100, can a Portable Mic Mixers line-out be connected to one or both XLR-in of the MA-100 or should it go directly into the camera by-passing the MA-100?

October 24th, 2005, 11:14 AM	#1697
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	There are a number of software solutions for this. One of them is DVFilm Maker, however I think they suggest shooting at 1/50 shutter speed for best results: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/

October 25th, 2005, 01:40 AM	#1698
Manu Pinto New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14	I explain better. I have already shooted, about 25 hours, to 1/25 shutter. I would like to remove part of the Riverbero on the images. I have used Magic Bullet V.2 but without visible results. Some solution?

October 29th, 2005, 06:11 AM	#1703
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	You can use a field mixer to mix three or more sources to two channels and feed that to the XL1. Many people do that. It helps to have an experience sound person to manage the mix to be sure you get it right. Beyond the cost of a good field mixer, the main down sides are that the mixer is one more piece of gear to manage in the field, and you cannot change the mix in post. With 4-channel recording you can adjust the mix of up to 4 devices when editing to get the sound balance you want. Some people record audio to a separete device, e.g., DAT or MiniDisc, and synch the sound in post. If the mixer has mic-level output, you can connect it to the MA-100, if not you need to pad the level to mic level, or feed it direct to the Audio 1 input with the XL1 input set to line level. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

October 29th, 2005, 03:50 PM	#1704
Rich Herrin New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Thanks Don It's nice to get a knowledgeable answerd to my questions and in a timely manner too. Thanks again.

November 10th, 2005, 09:39 AM	#1706
Karl Heiner Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: california Posts: 342	help-tech question i am sorry guys/ gals have a black out...<G> is the firewire on the xl-1s a 4 pin or a 6 pin.? i am blank... thanks

November 10th, 2005, 08:33 PM	#1707
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Should be 4-pin at the camcorder __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

November 11th, 2005, 05:40 PM	#1708
Steve Sweeney Tourist Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1	Replacement Battery Charger Greetings all, I'm new to the forum and have found a lot of helpful information by browsing here. I am in need of a new charger and extra batteries for my XL1. I saw the thread about inexpensive batteries on ebay but didn't see anyone mention third party chargers. I'm looking at this unit on ebay and was just wondering if anyone has had experience with it or other aftermarket charges? http://cgi.ebay.com/CANON-BP-945-XL1...QQcmdZViewItem Thanks, Steve Last edited by Steve Sweeney; November 12th, 2005 at 12:32 AM.

November 12th, 2005, 07:00 AM	#1709
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	I've used a Sima SMP-13 with success. My only complaint is its wall wart is big. If you have differnt batteris for different gear, you may want to look for one that supports as many different battery types as you can. The link information does not say much about the charger to help evaluate it. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

November 14th, 2005, 04:03 PM	#1710
Tony Sellars Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Morristown, TN Posts: 46	On camera light Any suggestions for an enexpensive on camera light? Would be used for indoor interviews. What about the Canon VL 10? Any advice would be appreciated.