XL1 / XL1S various posts

Heath McKnight · August 5th, 2005, 08:05 PM

I'm having really bizarre, and bad, digital break ups on a tape shot with a Canon XL-1. I'm also having a heart attack, because said tape is part two of a short film shot 2.5 years ago and I'm trying to edit it.

My friend said to try and play it from the original XL-1; no can do, since it's long gone. Tape 1 doesn't have this problem, and the dv dubs I made two years ago seem to be fine, according to my friend.

I'm going to try playing the tape on a Sony DSR-11 or something other than a JVC camera and see what happens. I'm going to step away from the ledge now.

FYI, I've tried cleaning the heads, but no luck.

heath

Shaggy Franks · August 7th, 2005, 04:46 AM

Hi community,

sorry that I haven't been around for awhile, been out of town for a year. (Jobs)
Anyway, I need some urgent info and help. I will be going on to a 2 day shoot, where they will be using the XL2.
My problem is since I will be editing it but only have a the XL1s to feed any footage to my Mac.
Will there be any problem or quality loss when playing back footage on the XL1s that was captured on the XL2?

Thanks for any info and for the fast reply.

Also just wanted to say I'm back now. :-)

Shaggy

Mike Teutsch · August 7th, 2005, 07:30 AM

Others will know more and I'm sure will chime in, but I see no problem with what you are going to do.

The video goes onto the tape already compressed and whatever camera or deck you capture on will just be reading 1s & 0s. No loss at all!

Mike

Robin Davies-Rollinson · August 7th, 2005, 09:51 AM

Quite correct - in fact, you could even use a little Euro400 camera to play back and it would be fine...
(and don't anyone dare ask if Euro400 is a make of camera!!!)

Robin

Pat Kiel · August 8th, 2005, 03:56 AM

My Friends,

I am new to the XL1s. I have a firestore 3.

What do you suggest the best settings for me on a 3x lens in bright sunlight?
Thank you! (I am a newbie on this site and hobby)

Mathieu Ghekiere · August 8th, 2005, 01:37 PM

Hello Pat,

Welcome to the boards!
You could use a UV filter, not only to protect your lens from the sunlight, but just to protect your lens. Cheaper then buying a new lens, if there is a scratch ;-)

I don't know if the 3x has any ND filters on it, maybe you should buy one seperately if not.
So you can have an (relatively) open iris in bright sunlight (so you still can have a small Depth of Field = filmic - if that is what you are looking for of course)

David Kidd · August 8th, 2005, 03:51 PM

Can anyone tell me what an xl of xls is worth used? I am intersted in purchasing but not sure about price?

Boyd Ostroff · August 8th, 2005, 03:53 PM

A search of our classifieds would be one way to get an idea of this:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/search.php?searchid=84428

Mike Teutsch · August 8th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Also check Ebay, especially auctions that have ended. Not much of a better way to find out. Also check with dealers like B&H for used equipment. You are probably looking at $1,800 to $3,000 depending on accessories.

Mike

Christopher C. Murphy · August 10th, 2005, 01:39 PM

We're the tapes left somewhere that there were magnets?? Also, monitors can mess up tapes.

Oh, and the main thing I have found that is a tape (and all equipment) killer?? Humidity...and FL has lots of it. Right now, the humidity up here in New England is horrible. I run a de-humidifer 24/7 and keep all my tapes and equipment in the room. The ideal humidity is between 45-50%..

Heath McKnight · August 10th, 2005, 05:50 PM

True, true, true. I hooked up the FX1 and had little problems, except one walking shot. My friend is going to capture that shot and we'll do an iChat/AOL IM transfer this weekend.

heath

Clint Grant · August 11th, 2005, 01:59 PM

Hello Everybody

I've looked into matte boxes a great deal, and know quite a bit about them, but not enough about some "technical" stuff. (not technical, really; just concerns about sizing/vignetting.). What I'm wondering is if the Cavision 16x9 matte box (found on B&H for $400) and 3 filter stages will pose any problems for use on an xl1s. (any vignetting?) Because it's a 16x9 box, and I'll be shooting in 4x3, wilil there be less shade protection? I'm just thinking toward the future when I'll be upgrading to the XL2, and will have native 16x9. Oh, and does the Cavision 16x9 box use 4x4 filters, or 4x5?

I knnow all about Chrosziel, Century Optics, Petroff, etc., but have decided that Cavision is the one for me right now. But, as always, you get what you pay for.....I know......

Thanks a lot everyone!

~Clint Grant~

Clint Grant · August 12th, 2005, 07:35 AM

AH, forget this. I'm just gonna save up a bit longer and buy the Century Optics stuff. Thanks anyways.

~Clint Grant~

Karl Heiner · August 15th, 2005, 04:34 PM

just would like to share my expirience.
have my xls-1 exact one year. at my first shoot the autofocus (green square) was hunting and i posted here to get some answers.

since i got a lot advice, i have never used the auto setting anymore, and since most of my jobs are in a theatre/ studio setting, i shoot in spotlight/ or man, autofocus off, stabilizer off, mode.

super quality...thanks guys/ gals

super board

greetings

Bruce Wilkinson · August 16th, 2005, 05:53 AM

Has anyone found a supplier for a 90 degree firewire cable (one that goes up, not sideways) so the user can access the main start/stop buttton while outputing to a DTE device such as an FS-4?

August 5th, 2005, 08:05 PM	#1651
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Bizarre "break up" on tape shot with XL-1 I'm having really bizarre, and bad, digital break ups on a tape shot with a Canon XL-1. I'm also having a heart attack, because said tape is part two of a short film shot 2.5 years ago and I'm trying to edit it. My friend said to try and play it from the original XL-1; no can do, since it's long gone. Tape 1 doesn't have this problem, and the dv dubs I made two years ago seem to be fine, according to my friend. I'm going to try playing the tape on a Sony DSR-11 or something other than a JVC camera and see what happens. I'm going to step away from the ledge now. FYI, I've tried cleaning the heads, but no luck. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 7th, 2005, 04:46 AM	#1652
Shaggy Franks Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 76	Urgent info needed! (XL2 Footage on XL1s) Hi community, sorry that I haven't been around for awhile, been out of town for a year. (Jobs) Anyway, I need some urgent info and help. I will be going on to a 2 day shoot, where they will be using the XL2. My problem is since I will be editing it but only have a the XL1s to feed any footage to my Mac. Will there be any problem or quality loss when playing back footage on the XL1s that was captured on the XL2? Thanks for any info and for the fast reply. Also just wanted to say I'm back now. :-) Shaggy __________________ Apple Pro

August 7th, 2005, 07:30 AM	#1653
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Others will know more and I'm sure will chime in, but I see no problem with what you are going to do. The video goes onto the tape already compressed and whatever camera or deck you capture on will just be reading 1s & 0s. No loss at all! Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

August 8th, 2005, 03:56 AM	#1655
Pat Kiel Tourist Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1	Help insettings for bright sun settings My Friends, I am new to the XL1s. I have a firestore 3. What do you suggest the best settings for me on a 3x lens in bright sunlight? Thank you! (I am a newbie on this site and hobby) Last edited by Pat Kiel; August 8th, 2005 at 04:01 AM. Reason: I entered info in the wrong place

August 8th, 2005, 03:51 PM	#1657
David Kidd New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23	XL1 or XL1s used Can anyone tell me what an xl of xls is worth used? I am intersted in purchasing but not sure about price?

August 7th, 2005, 09:51 AM	#1654
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Quite correct - in fact, you could even use a little Euro400 camera to play back and it would be fine... (and don't anyone dare ask if Euro400 is a make of camera!!!) Robin

August 8th, 2005, 01:37 PM	#1656
Mathieu Ghekiere Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,195	Hello Pat, Welcome to the boards! You could use a UV filter, not only to protect your lens from the sunlight, but just to protect your lens. Cheaper then buying a new lens, if there is a scratch ;-) I don't know if the 3x has any ND filters on it, maybe you should buy one seperately if not. So you can have an (relatively) open iris in bright sunlight (so you still can have a small Depth of Field = filmic - if that is what you are looking for of course)

August 8th, 2005, 03:53 PM	#1658
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	A search of our classifieds would be one way to get an idea of this: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/search.php?searchid=84428

August 8th, 2005, 04:03 PM	#1659
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Also check Ebay, especially auctions that have ended. Not much of a better way to find out. Also check with dealers like B&H for used equipment. You are probably looking at $1,800 to $3,000 depending on accessories. Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

August 10th, 2005, 01:39 PM	#1660
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	We're the tapes left somewhere that there were magnets?? Also, monitors can mess up tapes. Oh, and the main thing I have found that is a tape (and all equipment) killer?? Humidity...and FL has lots of it. Right now, the humidity up here in New England is horrible. I run a de-humidifer 24/7 and keep all my tapes and equipment in the room. The ideal humidity is between 45-50%.. __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

August 10th, 2005, 05:50 PM	#1661
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	True, true, true. I hooked up the FX1 and had little problems, except one walking shot. My friend is going to capture that shot and we'll do an iChat/AOL IM transfer this weekend. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

August 11th, 2005, 01:59 PM	#1662
Clint Grant Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 125	Cavision mattebox for Xl1s Hello Everybody I've looked into matte boxes a great deal, and know quite a bit about them, but not enough about some "technical" stuff. (not technical, really; just concerns about sizing/vignetting.). What I'm wondering is if the Cavision 16x9 matte box (found on B&H for $400) and 3 filter stages will pose any problems for use on an xl1s. (any vignetting?) Because it's a 16x9 box, and I'll be shooting in 4x3, wilil there be less shade protection? I'm just thinking toward the future when I'll be upgrading to the XL2, and will have native 16x9. Oh, and does the Cavision 16x9 box use 4x4 filters, or 4x5? I knnow all about Chrosziel, Century Optics, Petroff, etc., but have decided that Cavision is the one for me right now. But, as always, you get what you pay for.....I know...... Thanks a lot everyone! ~Clint Grant~

August 12th, 2005, 07:35 AM	#1663
Clint Grant Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 125	Forget It AH, forget this. I'm just gonna save up a bit longer and buy the Century Optics stuff. Thanks anyways. ~Clint Grant~

August 15th, 2005, 04:34 PM	#1664
Karl Heiner Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: california Posts: 342	autofocus just would like to share my expirience. have my xls-1 exact one year. at my first shoot the autofocus (green square) was hunting and i posted here to get some answers. since i got a lot advice, i have never used the auto setting anymore, and since most of my jobs are in a theatre/ studio setting, i shoot in spotlight/ or man, autofocus off, stabilizer off, mode. super quality...thanks guys/ gals super board greetings

August 16th, 2005, 05:53 AM	#1665
Bruce Wilkinson Tourist Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3	XL1-S Firewire Cable Has anyone found a supplier for a 90 degree firewire cable (one that goes up, not sideways) so the user can access the main start/stop buttton while outputing to a DTE device such as an FS-4?