MA-200 XLR audio adapter questions

Jean-Philippe Archibald · March 8th, 2004, 10:07 AM

You can't do that. The MA-200 have 3 pins XLR inputs and doesn't provide power.

Chris Hurd · March 9th, 2004, 05:41 PM

Just to echo Jean, those 3-pin XLR inputs on the MA-200 are for audio only. You'll need a 4-pin XLR power source such as a battery belt, battery pouch or on-board power system such as an Aspen, IDX or Anton Bauer pro battery pack... which you can mount on the MA-200's accessory bracket. Hope this helps,

Edward Troxel · March 29th, 2004, 02:07 PM

As a followup, the repair was successful. It had to be taken apart in order to get to the back of the tab but three small holes were drilled, filled with metal, and thoroughly glued into place. The outside was then smoothed down and it now feels very solid.

Dean Sensui · March 29th, 2004, 05:57 PM

Edward...

Congratulations on the repair. Epoxy is amazing when appropriately applied. I've used it for a lot of things including boat repair, furniture repair, rifle accurizing and part fabrication.

One of my friends built an entire airplane with it (Rutan Long-EZ).

Sometimes it beats spending hundreds of dollars in replacement parts.

Dean Sensui
Base Two Productions

Bryan Adamez · April 30th, 2004, 08:22 AM

Can anyone recommend a decent 48v phantom power supply that will mount to the MA-200?

I couldn't find anything in my MA-200 lit that says it supplies power so I'm assuming it doesn't.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · April 30th, 2004, 08:26 AM

You're right, the MA-100/MA-200 doesn't provide phantom power.

You can try this little box:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=288123&is=REG

It does not mount to the ma-200 but it is portable and should do what you want at low cost.

Jim Sofranko · October 15th, 2004, 09:08 PM

I am familiar with the technical and size differences of these two adaptors but is the mounting tab better on the 200?

Chris Hurd · October 23rd, 2004, 06:15 AM

Jim, in my opinion, no it ain't. It's pretty much the same plastic tab.

Steve Barth · November 9th, 2004, 11:00 AM

I have just purchased an MA-200 adapter, as I am hooking up an external mic on a boom pole for interview recording. Audio quality is fantastic, but here's the problem. I have the mic plugged into the Audio1 jacks, but I only get audio on 1 side. On the back of the MA-200, it says L for one plug-in and R for the other. So if I plug in the mic to the L jack, I get audio on the left. If I plug the mic into the R jack, I get audio on the right. But I don't want one side or the other, I need a stereo signal. With the left and right jacks on the MA-200, it would appear that you could only plug in 2 mics, and I know I can plug in 4! So it just doesn't make sense to me. There must be some way to get a stereo signal from one mic jack, and I know I have not seen a mic on the market whose wire has two plugs at the end of it. Is it a camera setting, or what am I doing wrong?

Don Palomaki · November 9th, 2004, 08:13 PM

To get stereo you need two directional mics (or a single point stereo mic). Typcially one mic (or element) picks up sound from the left of center, the other from the right of center.

With one mono mic, you can get the same signal on the left and right channel - but that is not stereo, it is just two channel mono signal.

If you want the same signal on both channels, you can mix it in post, or you can get a "Y" splitter/adapter and feed the same signal both Audio 1 inputs.

If you want actual stereo, consider getting a single point stereo mic, such as the AT825.

Matthew Elyash · January 21st, 2005, 02:24 AM

Your right to think you can get four channels on the XL-1/1s/2 camera in 12 bit, but you can only get two in thru the MA200. The other two channels come from the input normally attached to your on camera mic which IS a STEREO mic. Note the two sets of connector pins on the mic cable from the on camera mic that is for channel one and two, the other two inputs are derived from the connections on the MA200 or lacking that the RCA connectors on the back or side of the camera (depending on model of course).

Hope this clears it up for you and anybody else with this question.

Don Palomaki · January 22nd, 2005, 06:50 AM

Matt,
The MA-100 is limitd to two audio inputs.

However, as I understand it, you should be able to get 4 channels from the MA-200 by connecting its output to the Audio 1 and Audio 2 input jacks. You have to select Audio 1 as the input with the Input switch behind the door. as well as settng up the record mode and Audio 2 and audio 1/2 sensitivity from the menu.

Martin Costa · March 5th, 2005, 10:03 AM

Hi, I've been trying to find the specs of the ma200. Does it have phantom power? I'm using a Ma100 but would there be any advantage in using a porta dat instead of using the onboard sound processing of the Xl1?

Rob Lohman · March 6th, 2005, 06:16 AM

I've renamed the thread to better reflect what you are looking for.
If I remember correctly the MA-200 doesn't have this, but I'm not
sure on that.

Hopefully someone else who is in the know will chime in.

Dean Sensui · March 8th, 2005, 03:36 AM

Nope, it (unfortunately) doesn't.

March 8th, 2004, 10:07 AM	#136
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	You can't do that. The MA-200 have 3 pins XLR inputs and doesn't provide power. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

March 9th, 2004, 05:41 PM	#137
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Just to echo Jean, those 3-pin XLR inputs on the MA-200 are for audio only. You'll need a 4-pin XLR power source such as a battery belt, battery pouch or on-board power system such as an Aspen, IDX or Anton Bauer pro battery pack... which you can mount on the MA-200's accessory bracket. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 30th, 2004, 08:22 AM	#140
Bryan Adamez New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hagerstown, Maryland Posts: 19	MA-200 mountable phantom power Can anyone recommend a decent 48v phantom power supply that will mount to the MA-200? I couldn't find anything in my MA-200 lit that says it supplies power so I'm assuming it doesn't. __________________ -Bryan

April 30th, 2004, 08:26 AM	#141
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	You're right, the MA-100/MA-200 doesn't provide phantom power. You can try this little box: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=288123&is=REG It does not mount to the ma-200 but it is portable and should do what you want at low cost. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

October 15th, 2004, 09:08 PM	#142
Jim Sofranko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Shokan, NY Posts: 217	MA100 vs MA200 I am familiar with the technical and size differences of these two adaptors but is the mounting tab better on the 200?

March 29th, 2004, 02:07 PM	#138
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	As a followup, the repair was successful. It had to be taken apart in order to get to the back of the tab but three small holes were drilled, filled with metal, and thoroughly glued into place. The outside was then smoothed down and it now feels very solid.

March 29th, 2004, 05:57 PM	#139
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Edward... Congratulations on the repair. Epoxy is amazing when appropriately applied. I've used it for a lot of things including boat repair, furniture repair, rifle accurizing and part fabrication. One of my friends built an entire airplane with it (Rutan Long-EZ). Sometimes it beats spending hundreds of dollars in replacement parts. Dean Sensui Base Two Productions

October 23rd, 2004, 06:15 AM	#143
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Jim, in my opinion, no it ain't. It's pretty much the same plastic tab. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 9th, 2004, 11:00 AM	#144
Steve Barth Tourist Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	Help with MA-200! Quick Question! I have just purchased an MA-200 adapter, as I am hooking up an external mic on a boom pole for interview recording. Audio quality is fantastic, but here's the problem. I have the mic plugged into the Audio1 jacks, but I only get audio on 1 side. On the back of the MA-200, it says L for one plug-in and R for the other. So if I plug in the mic to the L jack, I get audio on the left. If I plug the mic into the R jack, I get audio on the right. But I don't want one side or the other, I need a stereo signal. With the left and right jacks on the MA-200, it would appear that you could only plug in 2 mics, and I know I can plug in 4! So it just doesn't make sense to me. There must be some way to get a stereo signal from one mic jack, and I know I have not seen a mic on the market whose wire has two plugs at the end of it. Is it a camera setting, or what am I doing wrong?

November 9th, 2004, 08:13 PM	#145
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	To get stereo you need two directional mics (or a single point stereo mic). Typcially one mic (or element) picks up sound from the left of center, the other from the right of center. With one mono mic, you can get the same signal on the left and right channel - but that is not stereo, it is just two channel mono signal. If you want the same signal on both channels, you can mix it in post, or you can get a "Y" splitter/adapter and feed the same signal both Audio 1 inputs. If you want actual stereo, consider getting a single point stereo mic, such as the AT825. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 21st, 2005, 02:24 AM	#146
Matthew Elyash New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 12	4 channel question Your right to think you can get four channels on the XL-1/1s/2 camera in 12 bit, but you can only get two in thru the MA200. The other two channels come from the input normally attached to your on camera mic which IS a STEREO mic. Note the two sets of connector pins on the mic cable from the on camera mic that is for channel one and two, the other two inputs are derived from the connections on the MA200 or lacking that the RCA connectors on the back or side of the camera (depending on model of course). Hope this clears it up for you and anybody else with this question.

January 22nd, 2005, 06:50 AM	#147
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Matt, The MA-100 is limitd to two audio inputs. However, as I understand it, you should be able to get 4 channels from the MA-200 by connecting its output to the Audio 1 and Audio 2 input jacks. You have to select Audio 1 as the input with the Input switch behind the door. as well as settng up the record mode and Audio 2 and audio 1/2 sensitivity from the menu. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

March 5th, 2005, 10:03 AM	#148
Martin Costa Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 76 Images: 2	Ma-200 Hi, I've been trying to find the specs of the ma200. Does it have phantom power? I'm using a Ma100 but would there be any advantage in using a porta dat instead of using the onboard sound processing of the Xl1?

March 6th, 2005, 06:16 AM	#149
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've renamed the thread to better reflect what you are looking for. If I remember correctly the MA-200 doesn't have this, but I'm not sure on that. Hopefully someone else who is in the know will chime in. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 8th, 2005, 03:36 AM	#150
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Nope, it (unfortunately) doesn't. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing