Possible XL1S ownership

Michael Kraus · November 21st, 2008, 10:06 AM

Just want to point out that the canon HV30 is down to $600 new on B&H right now.

It may be exactly what you are looking for.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Camcorder.html

Mark Cinense · November 21st, 2008, 10:31 AM

I was told that the consumer HDVC do not the same image quality as the SD DVC XL1S.

thank you for the heads up though... I think I saw that late last night.

Mark Cinense · November 21st, 2008, 04:39 PM

thanks guys for all the help. apparently the whole transaction is a FRAUD.

I almost sent the money too...

ouch...

Chris Hurd · November 21st, 2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cinense

I was told that the consumer HDVC do not the same image quality as the SD DVC XL1S.

Actually it's the other way around... the Canon consumer HDV
camcorders have much better image quality than the XL1S.

Trust me.

Mark Cinense · November 21st, 2008, 05:19 PM

so I have my eye's set on the HF11... Chris, your review by the way is very awesome.

thank you for your time and effort... I bet it is fun and rewarding to do the reviews.

Chris Hurd · November 22nd, 2008, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cinense

so I have my eye's set on the HF11...

Mark, consider the HF100 instead, and save yourself a couple hundred dollars in the process.

I would not recommend the consumer HD camcorders for wedding video, however -- you'd be much better off with a good, used Panasonic DVX100 or Sony VX2000 if you want to do video as a small business.

Mark Cinense · November 22nd, 2008, 04:36 AM

I stumbled across the Panasonic HDC-SD100K. Is this comparable to the HF100?

Michael Kraus · November 22nd, 2008, 10:05 AM

I'd steer clear of the sd100k. I've never used one but i'd expect that those tiny little 1/6 inch sensors wouldn't hold up too well in low light....or maybe even somewhat decent light...

Of course if it's the same 3cmos concept that's incorporated in sony's fx7 and ex1 then maybe it will do better than just the typical 1/6 inch sensor. In any case, the hf100 is a safer bet and a lot of people have positive experiences with it.

If you don't have a fancy computer that can comfortably edit AVCHD, then i'd maybe look for an HV20 or HV30.

Alan Taylor · November 24th, 2008, 06:50 AM

I understand the point everyone is making about the XL1s being an old camera. But, for SD, it still shoots some decent video. I just bought a used one, with the MA-100 and a very nice tripod for a decent price. I couldn't afford a new HD version. This will get me through a couple of projects, and when I can afford a new camera, I'll buy it. But, even then, I may keep this as a back-up camera. I'm new to this forum and I'm enjoying learning from reading all the posts.

Cole McDonald · November 24th, 2008, 04:37 PM

Love my XL1s. Makes pretty, just not as high resolution/wide latitude pretty ;)

Greg Boston · November 24th, 2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Cinense

thanks guys for all the help. apparently the whole transaction is a FRAUD.

I almost sent the money too...

ouch...

Yep, good thing you came here to ask questions. Would love to hear the details on this attempted fraudulent transaction (without naming names). If this was on that 'auction' site, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

regards,

-gb-

November 21st, 2008, 10:06 AM	#16
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	Just want to point out that the canon HV30 is down to $600 new on B&H right now. It may be exactly what you are looking for. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Camcorder.html Last edited by Michael Kraus; November 21st, 2008 at 10:07 AM. Reason: link insert

November 24th, 2008, 04:37 PM	#25
Cole McDonald Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN, USA Posts: 1,675	Love my XL1s. Makes pretty, just not as high resolution/wide latitude pretty ;) __________________ Web Youtube Facebook

November 21st, 2008, 10:31 AM	#17
Mark Cinense Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Duke City, USA Posts: 53	I was told that the consumer HDVC do not the same image quality as the SD DVC XL1S. thank you for the heads up though... I think I saw that late last night.

November 21st, 2008, 04:39 PM	#18
Mark Cinense Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Duke City, USA Posts: 53	thanks guys for all the help. apparently the whole transaction is a FRAUD. I almost sent the money too... ouch...

November 21st, 2008, 05:19 PM	#20
Mark Cinense Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Duke City, USA Posts: 53	so I have my eye's set on the HF11... Chris, your review by the way is very awesome. thank you for your time and effort... I bet it is fun and rewarding to do the reviews.

November 22nd, 2008, 04:36 AM	#22
Mark Cinense Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Duke City, USA Posts: 53	I stumbled across the Panasonic HDC-SD100K. Is this comparable to the HF100?

November 22nd, 2008, 10:05 AM	#23
Michael Kraus Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 232	I'd steer clear of the sd100k. I've never used one but i'd expect that those tiny little 1/6 inch sensors wouldn't hold up too well in low light....or maybe even somewhat decent light... Of course if it's the same 3cmos concept that's incorporated in sony's fx7 and ex1 then maybe it will do better than just the typical 1/6 inch sensor. In any case, the hf100 is a safer bet and a lot of people have positive experiences with it. If you don't have a fancy computer that can comfortably edit AVCHD, then i'd maybe look for an HV20 or HV30.

November 24th, 2008, 06:50 AM	#24
Alan Taylor Tourist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2	I understand the point everyone is making about the XL1s being an old camera. But, for SD, it still shoots some decent video. I just bought a used one, with the MA-100 and a very nice tripod for a decent price. I couldn't afford a new HD version. This will get me through a couple of projects, and when I can afford a new camera, I'll buy it. But, even then, I may keep this as a back-up camera. I'm new to this forum and I'm enjoying learning from reading all the posts.