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Steve Nunez · March 19th, 2002, 10:54 PM

Anyone on this forum ever use the GY DV500 by JVC- how did you like the quality of the video...how does it compare to the XL1S?

I read on a JVC forum how some of the guys had tried or used XL's and proclaimed the DV500 to be on "another level"- was wondering if anyone on this forum had tried the cam- seems like an excellent alternative to an XL1S.

..been thinking of selling my 2 month old 1S in favor of either the JVC or the new Panasonic AG-DVC200.....anyone have any comments?

(looking for the ultimate in video clarity/sharpness- as well as color accuracy detail)

have fun

Chris Hurd · March 20th, 2002, 07:55 AM

The DV500 is indeed on "another level." It's a professional camera. Consequently, accessories, etc., will be professionall priced as well. A power supply (not included with the camera) and battery will cost about an additional $1000. A set of zoom and focus controls, about another $1000. If you ever want to change lenses, about another $2000 at least for a pro Canon or Fujinon lens. And you'll definitely need a better mic than what's included. No doubt about it, it's a "better" camera (it uses the same CCD block as the Sony DSR-300 and it has a 10-bit DSP), however, it's a professional piece of equipment, placing it in a different category altogether than the XL1S.

Same with the Pana 200. In many ways I like this camera better than the JVC 500. My advice is always, if you can afford a better camera, then by all means, go for it.

Mike Butler · March 20th, 2002, 04:29 PM

Where is this JVC forum? (don't worry, Chris, I'm not bolting the Watchdog!)
:)

Steve Nunez · March 20th, 2002, 04:32 PM

I'm using OS X on a Mac at the moment and have it bookmarked under OS 9......I'll find the link and post it soon-

Mike Butler · March 20th, 2002, 05:11 PM

Ah yes, another side benefit of installing OS X! :) And I thought I was a confused puppy cuz I have both Mac and Wintel boxes in my stable. LOL!

Chris Hurd · March 20th, 2002, 06:26 PM

Mike, it's at Mike Martin's Videographers Forum -- see direct link on the DVinfoNet Resources page.

Mike Butler · March 21st, 2002, 02:06 PM

Thanks Chris, now I'll go torture myself. And then go back and use my (all paid for) XL for fun and profit.

Ken Tanaka · March 21st, 2002, 05:53 PM

Hey Steve,
You might have already seen this but abcdv.com has reviews and comments on the JVC-DV500 posted here:

http://www.abcdv.com/shooting/jvc/gydv500/index.html

Greg Matty · March 27th, 2002, 09:25 AM

Although I am not in the market for a new camera, that new Panasonic is intriguing.

One concern is with the large format tapes. What type of deck would one need in order to not use the camera for logging and capturing?

I assume since both the JVC and Panasonic are DV, they can be output to a standard DV tape and preserve the original quality? This is probably a stupid question but since I have already typed it in, I will leave it.

Greg Matty

Vic Owen · March 27th, 2002, 09:39 AM

There are several decks out there that will read/record either cassette. The tape is the same -- the bigger cassettes just stuff a lot more tape in 'em. There is no loss when going from DV to DV, whether it's to the camera or a deck.

Some representative decks that will do both are the Sony DSR-11, DSR-20, etc., and the Panasonic AG-DV2000. There are others.

Greg Matty · March 27th, 2002, 12:16 PM

Vic,

I have looked at a DSR-11 and never realized it would take the larger tapes. For the record, how much larger are they than the standard post it note sized mini DV tapes?

Photos of the Panasonic have lead me to believe the door to the tape compartment was at least the size of an analog 8mm tape. In other words just a little bit larger than a deck of cards.

I will have to look into this a little bit more.

For other who are reading this thread, have any of you owned both an XL-1 and either the Panasonic or JVC cameras? It is established that the image is an imprvement, but how much and in which areas?

Lastly, and forgive my ignorance of lenses, would the typical lens for the JVC or Panasonic be manual focus only with no image stabilization or would it have an auto focus option and/or some form of image stabilization?

Thanks.

Greg Matty

Vic Owen · March 27th, 2002, 04:06 PM

<<<-- I have looked at a DSR-11 and never realized it would take the larger tapes. For the record, how much larger are they than the standard post it note sized mini DV tapes?

Photos of the Panasonic have lead me to believe the door to the tape compartment was at least the size of an analog 8mm tape. In other words just a little bit larger than a deck of cards.-->>>

The physical size is approx. 4 inches, give or take a little. You can record over 4 hours of video at DV speed on these puppies.

I have a DV-2000 -- it works well. The advantage of the Sonys is the ability to also record/play DV-CAM -- the DSR-11 will also operate (but not convert) in PAL, if one needs it.

March 19th, 2002, 10:54 PM	#1
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Jvc Dv500 Anyone on this forum ever use the GY DV500 by JVC- how did you like the quality of the video...how does it compare to the XL1S? I read on a JVC forum how some of the guys had tried or used XL's and proclaimed the DV500 to be on "another level"- was wondering if anyone on this forum had tried the cam- seems like an excellent alternative to an XL1S. ..been thinking of selling my 2 month old 1S in favor of either the JVC or the new Panasonic AG-DVC200.....anyone have any comments? (looking for the ultimate in video clarity/sharpness- as well as color accuracy detail) have fun __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 20th, 2002, 07:55 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The DV500 is indeed on "another level." It's a professional camera. Consequently, accessories, etc., will be professionall priced as well. A power supply (not included with the camera) and battery will cost about an additional $1000. A set of zoom and focus controls, about another $1000. If you ever want to change lenses, about another $2000 at least for a pro Canon or Fujinon lens. And you'll definitely need a better mic than what's included. No doubt about it, it's a "better" camera (it uses the same CCD block as the Sony DSR-300 and it has a 10-bit DSP), however, it's a professional piece of equipment, placing it in a different category altogether than the XL1S. Same with the Pana 200. In many ways I like this camera better than the JVC 500. My advice is always, if you can afford a better camera, then by all means, go for it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 20th, 2002, 04:29 PM	#3
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Where is this JVC forum? (don't worry, Chris, I'm not bolting the Watchdog!) :) __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

March 20th, 2002, 04:32 PM	#4
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	I'm using OS X on a Mac at the moment and have it bookmarked under OS 9......I'll find the link and post it soon- __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 20th, 2002, 05:11 PM	#5
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Ah yes, another side benefit of installing OS X! :) And I thought I was a confused puppy cuz I have both Mac and Wintel boxes in my stable. LOL! __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

March 20th, 2002, 06:26 PM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Mike, it's at Mike Martin's Videographers Forum -- see direct link on the DVinfoNet Resources page. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 21st, 2002, 02:06 PM	#7
Mike Butler Machinist Mate Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Southern Connecticut Posts: 644	Thanks Chris, now I'll go torture myself. And then go back and use my (all paid for) XL for fun and profit. __________________ I ain't straight outta Compton, I'm straight out the trailer. Cuss like a sailor, drink like a Mc. My only words of wisdom are just, "Radio Edit."

March 21st, 2002, 05:53 PM	#8
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Hey Steve, You might have already seen this but abcdv.com has reviews and comments on the JVC-DV500 posted here: http://www.abcdv.com/shooting/jvc/gydv500/index.html __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 27th, 2002, 09:25 AM	#9
Greg Matty Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 177	Although I am not in the market for a new camera, that new Panasonic is intriguing. One concern is with the large format tapes. What type of deck would one need in order to not use the camera for logging and capturing? I assume since both the JVC and Panasonic are DV, they can be output to a standard DV tape and preserve the original quality? This is probably a stupid question but since I have already typed it in, I will leave it. Greg Matty

March 27th, 2002, 09:39 AM	#10
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	There are several decks out there that will read/record either cassette. The tape is the same -- the bigger cassettes just stuff a lot more tape in 'em. There is no loss when going from DV to DV, whether it's to the camera or a deck. Some representative decks that will do both are the Sony DSR-11, DSR-20, etc., and the Panasonic AG-DV2000. There are others. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

March 27th, 2002, 12:16 PM	#11
Greg Matty Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 177	Vic, I have looked at a DSR-11 and never realized it would take the larger tapes. For the record, how much larger are they than the standard post it note sized mini DV tapes? Photos of the Panasonic have lead me to believe the door to the tape compartment was at least the size of an analog 8mm tape. In other words just a little bit larger than a deck of cards. I will have to look into this a little bit more. For other who are reading this thread, have any of you owned both an XL-1 and either the Panasonic or JVC cameras? It is established that the image is an imprvement, but how much and in which areas? Lastly, and forgive my ignorance of lenses, would the typical lens for the JVC or Panasonic be manual focus only with no image stabilization or would it have an auto focus option and/or some form of image stabilization? Thanks. Greg Matty

March 27th, 2002, 04:06 PM	#12
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	<<<-- I have looked at a DSR-11 and never realized it would take the larger tapes. For the record, how much larger are they than the standard post it note sized mini DV tapes? Photos of the Panasonic have lead me to believe the door to the tape compartment was at least the size of an analog 8mm tape. In other words just a little bit larger than a deck of cards.-->>> The physical size is approx. 4 inches, give or take a little. You can record over 4 hours of video at DV speed on these puppies. I have a DV-2000 -- it works well. The advantage of the Sonys is the ability to also record/play DV-CAM -- the DSR-11 will also operate (but not convert) in PAL, if one needs it. __________________ -- Vic Owen --