16x9 Frame Lines possible in XL1? at DVinfo.net

Paul Figgiani · August 10th, 2003, 10:16 PM

I was wondering if anyone out there knows if it would be possible, with service from Canon, to upgrade the first generation camera's [XL1 model], so that they would be able to display the 16x9 framing guide lines available in the XL1s? The "16x9 Mode" is already available. It can't be too complicated to have a few extra 'lines" in the viewfinder.

Canon, are you listening?

Thanks.

Rob Lohman · August 11th, 2003, 02:30 PM

In theory it might be possible, but I highly doubt they would do
this for you. It might be easier to just buy a small monitor or
LCD screen and tape [with removable tape!] the guidelines on
there yourself.

Dan Uneken · August 12th, 2003, 12:54 AM

How does one figure out exactly where the 16x9 frame should be on the monitor? Thanks.

Rob Lohman · August 12th, 2003, 02:33 AM

You can make a simple image in a paint package and convert
that to DV. Now hook up the monitor and display the image on
it. You can then tape the correct "lines".

According to my calculator:

NTSC: each bar must be 58 pixels high. Remaining picture is 364 pixels high
PAL: each bar must be 72 pixels high. Remaining picture is 432 pixels high

You can download my masks from that URL as well. Convert it
into DV and output it to your monitor.

Dan Uneken · August 12th, 2003, 05:10 AM

Geweldig Rob,

Thanks a lot!

Paul Figgiani · August 13th, 2003, 10:47 AM

I burned a DVD, using a simple menu system to access 1:78:1, 1:85:1 and 2:35:1 masking frames to set up a 4X3 monitor for widescreen applications. If anyone would like one let me know and I will burn one for you for $10.

August 10th, 2003, 10:16 PM	#1
Paul Figgiani Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 42	16x9 Frame Lines possible in XL1? I was wondering if anyone out there knows if it would be possible, with service from Canon, to upgrade the first generation camera's [XL1 model], so that they would be able to display the 16x9 framing guide lines available in the XL1s? The "16x9 Mode" is already available. It can't be too complicated to have a few extra 'lines" in the viewfinder. Canon, are you listening? Thanks.

August 11th, 2003, 02:30 PM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	In theory it might be possible, but I highly doubt they would do this for you. It might be easier to just buy a small monitor or LCD screen and tape [with removable tape!] the guidelines on there yourself. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 12th, 2003, 12:54 AM	#3
Dan Uneken Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Andalucia, Spain Posts: 301	How does one figure out exactly where the 16x9 frame should be on the monitor? Thanks. __________________ Film & TV locations & production Spain http://www.fotofilmvideo.com/

August 12th, 2003, 02:33 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You can make a simple image in a paint package and convert that to DV. Now hook up the monitor and display the image on it. You can then tape the correct "lines". According to my calculator: NTSC: each bar must be 58 pixels high. Remaining picture is 364 pixels high PAL: each bar must be 72 pixels high. Remaining picture is 432 pixels high You can download my masks from that URL as well. Convert it into DV and output it to your monitor. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 12th, 2003, 05:10 AM	#5
Dan Uneken Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Andalucia, Spain Posts: 301	Geweldig Rob, Thanks a lot! __________________ Film & TV locations & production Spain http://www.fotofilmvideo.com/

August 13th, 2003, 10:47 AM	#6
Paul Figgiani Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 42	monitor mask DVD I burned a DVD, using a simple menu system to access 1:78:1, 1:85:1 and 2:35:1 masking frames to set up a 4X3 monitor for widescreen applications. If anyone would like one let me know and I will burn one for you for $10.