Color LCD viewfinder

Stephen Birdsong · June 3rd, 2003, 05:00 AM

Don,
Do you think this would be a difficult task?

Stephen

Don Palomaki · June 3rd, 2003, 05:25 PM

Probably not difficult for a competent electronics technician, but not something for the average user to attempt.

Dick Steele · June 16th, 2003, 03:44 PM

About a year ago I came across a dutch site on DV that had an interesting article about a DP that modified his XL1S into a frankenstein XL1S. I do not know what site it was or if it is still out there, yet the DP was discussing a cop show shot on an XL1S and he had adapted a Ikegami viewfinder, similar to the FU-1000, to his XL1S. At the time this fascinated me to no end, and I have since spoken to several electronics fellas over at the local university about converting over a B&W viewfinder to an XL1S.

I am curious to know if anyone else read such an article, and if anyone knows the process for adapting an late-model Ikegami viewfinder to an XL1S? The Fu-1000 is an Ikegami Viewfinder with Canon labeling, and some nifty stepping around for power up. Does anyone currently own an older Ikegami viewfinder for purchase, so I can perform some R&D?

Just Curious,

Dick Steele
3rd Coast Cinematics

Don Berube · June 16th, 2003, 06:15 PM

let us know how you make out.

I use the Canon B&W viewfinder with a Tiffen Tele-2X, which magnifies the CRT image significantly - giving the camera a very "flip-out LCD panel-like" feel.

http://www.tiffen.com/tele2x.htm

- don

Edwin Quan · June 17th, 2003, 12:44 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Don Berube : let us know how you make out.

I use the Canon B&W viewfinder with a Tiffen Tele-2X, which magnifies the CRT image significantly - giving the camera a very "flip-out LCD panel-like" feel.

http://www.tiffen.com/tele2x.htm

- don -->>>

may be a silly question but does the tiffen tele-2x work with the stock xl1s color viewfinder as well?

Don Berube · June 17th, 2003, 08:08 AM

No, unfortunately. Tiffen is aware that many people would like a TELE-2X for the color EVF and I do believe they are working on one.

- don

Eric Lian · June 26th, 2003, 11:56 PM

I read the XL-1 "Frankenstein" article in the XL-1 watchdog a while back. I don't know if it's the same one you're asking about, but here's the link anyway:

Frankenstein Meets the XL1 by Daniel Kohl

Nathan Gifford · June 27th, 2003, 11:20 AM

Yeah, its a really neat contraption. The only thing I would worry about is whether you could 'sunburn' your EVF by moonlight???

Rob Lohman · July 11th, 2003, 09:25 AM

The series you are mentioning was called "blauw blauw" (blue blue)
and was indeed a local police series here.

the article

Nathan Gifford · July 11th, 2003, 09:58 AM

Was it a good series by local standards?

Rob Lohman · July 11th, 2003, 10:33 AM

Never saw it myself... <g>

Buzz Bell · July 18th, 2003, 02:41 PM

Called them about the possibility of a Tele2X for the existing color XL1S viewfinder.

They said they have thought about it, but they need to hear from people to see if the market is there.

IN THE U.S. AND CANADA: 1-800-645-2522, or 1-631-273-2500

email - techsupport@tiffen.com

I need color or i carry my LCD monitor, but i also need better focus and this just might do it.

Thanks for all the good stuff i learn in here.

John Threat · July 31st, 2003, 09:08 AM

I looked in my viewfinder during a shoot the other day and I was shocked to see a piece of dirt there.

At first I thought it was on the lens, but I cleaned that. Then I thought it was on the gate to the CCD's, but it didn't show up in the footage. It's behind the glass on my FU-1000 viewfinder.

Goodness knows how it got there, but how do I get it out?

Robbie Smolinsky · August 1st, 2003, 09:52 AM

Hi,
Well I think I know what you're talking about, but I no longer have an XL1, so my explination won't be too specific. The actual eyepiece can be detached by twisting it off. You might want to check out the picture at Canon FU-1000 Monochrome CRT Viewfinder for the XL1 / XL1S a review by Ken Tanaka . Sorry I can't be more specific about it, but I hope this helps!!

Robbie

John Threat · August 1st, 2003, 04:19 PM

Thanks. I cleaned it out. A nice blow at an downward angle with compressed air made it good as new. Have an idea how that little particle got in there.

June 3rd, 2003, 05:25 PM	#107
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Probably not difficult for a competent electronics technician, but not something for the average user to attempt. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 16th, 2003, 03:44 PM	#108
Dick Steele Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 62	Viewfinder mods About a year ago I came across a dutch site on DV that had an interesting article about a DP that modified his XL1S into a frankenstein XL1S. I do not know what site it was or if it is still out there, yet the DP was discussing a cop show shot on an XL1S and he had adapted a Ikegami viewfinder, similar to the FU-1000, to his XL1S. At the time this fascinated me to no end, and I have since spoken to several electronics fellas over at the local university about converting over a B&W viewfinder to an XL1S. I am curious to know if anyone else read such an article, and if anyone knows the process for adapting an late-model Ikegami viewfinder to an XL1S? The Fu-1000 is an Ikegami Viewfinder with Canon labeling, and some nifty stepping around for power up. Does anyone currently own an older Ikegami viewfinder for purchase, so I can perform some R&D? Just Curious, Dick Steele 3rd Coast Cinematics

June 16th, 2003, 06:15 PM	#109
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	let us know how you make out. I use the Canon B&W viewfinder with a Tiffen Tele-2X, which magnifies the CRT image significantly - giving the camera a very "flip-out LCD panel-like" feel. http://www.tiffen.com/tele2x.htm - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

June 17th, 2003, 08:08 AM	#111
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	No, unfortunately. Tiffen is aware that many people would like a TELE-2X for the color EVF and I do believe they are working on one. - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

June 27th, 2003, 11:20 AM	#113
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Yeah, its a really neat contraption. The only thing I would worry about is whether you could 'sunburn' your EVF by moonlight??? __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

June 3rd, 2003, 05:00 AM	#106
Stephen Birdsong Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 125	Don, Do you think this would be a difficult task? Stephen

June 17th, 2003, 12:44 AM	#110
Edwin Quan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: United States Posts: 38	<<<-- Originally posted by Don Berube : let us know how you make out. I use the Canon B&W viewfinder with a Tiffen Tele-2X, which magnifies the CRT image significantly - giving the camera a very "flip-out LCD panel-like" feel. http://www.tiffen.com/tele2x.htm - don -->>> may be a silly question but does the tiffen tele-2x work with the stock xl1s color viewfinder as well?

June 26th, 2003, 11:56 PM	#112
Eric Lian Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sonoma County, CA Posts: 61	I read the XL-1 "Frankenstein" article in the XL-1 watchdog a while back. I don't know if it's the same one you're asking about, but here's the link anyway: Frankenstein Meets the XL1 by Daniel Kohl

July 11th, 2003, 09:25 AM	#114
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The series you are mentioning was called "blauw blauw" (blue blue) and was indeed a local police series here. the article __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 11th, 2003, 09:58 AM	#115
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	Was it a good series by local standards? __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

July 11th, 2003, 10:33 AM	#116
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Never saw it myself... <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 18th, 2003, 02:41 PM	#117
Buzz Bell New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 15	Contact Tiffen.... Called them about the possibility of a Tele2X for the existing color XL1S viewfinder. They said they have thought about it, but they need to hear from people to see if the market is there. IN THE U.S. AND CANADA: 1-800-645-2522, or 1-631-273-2500 email - techsupport@tiffen.com I need color or i carry my LCD monitor, but i also need better focus and this just might do it. Thanks for all the good stuff i learn in here.

July 31st, 2003, 09:08 AM	#118
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	Dirt In Viewfinder? How To clean? I looked in my viewfinder during a shoot the other day and I was shocked to see a piece of dirt there. At first I thought it was on the lens, but I cleaned that. Then I thought it was on the gate to the CCD's, but it didn't show up in the footage. It's behind the glass on my FU-1000 viewfinder. Goodness knows how it got there, but how do I get it out?

August 1st, 2003, 09:52 AM	#119
Robbie Smolinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 142	Hi, Well I think I know what you're talking about, but I no longer have an XL1, so my explination won't be too specific. The actual eyepiece can be detached by twisting it off. You might want to check out the picture at Canon FU-1000 Monochrome CRT Viewfinder for the XL1 / XL1S a review by Ken Tanaka . Sorry I can't be more specific about it, but I hope this helps!! Robbie

August 1st, 2003, 04:19 PM	#120
John Threat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 322	Thanks. I cleaned it out. A nice blow at an downward angle with compressed air made it good as new. Have an idea how that little particle got in there.