Capturing HD in FCP at DVinfo.net

Chris Fraser · June 20th, 2007, 04:17 AM

Hi. Hope someone out there can help me.
I've been running my XLH1 on SD on FCP PAL (v 5.0.4) and it works fine.
Recently I shot some HD footage and converted FCP to HD via Easy setup (1080i 50)
FCP can see and control the camera on startup but when I select log and capture the HD capture window appears allowing me to play,stop and jog etc but there is no image on the capture window.
FCP can read the time code but is unable to capture either by logging or 'capture now'.
The XL VCR menu settings are are set to the default settings.
I'd be grateful for any assistance.

Alistair Briggs · June 20th, 2007, 02:37 PM

Hi
I have a similar problem. I can digitise with the set-up on DV, but FCP refuses to see the camera if settings are for HDV. I have a very old firewire lead (one of the first generation, cost me over £50!! some years ago!) - could it be the cable?
Can anyone put us straight on setting up fcp to in take HDV via the HVD setting!
A.

Chris Fraser · June 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM

Hi Alistair. Can't be the cable. I've tried both 400 and 800 firewire.
I think it's a problem with the camera settings. I was able to load HD footage from a Sony camera using the same FCP settings.
I agree, we need help.

Nick Hiltgen · June 22nd, 2007, 12:40 PM

Are you certain that FCP 5.0.4 works for the setup you're trying to use? I know many of us had to wait for 5.1 to be released before we were able to import HD footage in NTSC land.

Chris Fraser · June 25th, 2007, 02:43 AM

Thanks Nick. Appreciate your reply. Will get the upgrade and let you know. By the way I'm on Pal.
Thanks again

Nick Hiltgen · June 25th, 2007, 10:15 AM

Chris, copy that. I think many of the people on this board are ntsc guys unfortunately, and we can only guess at things in PAL land. That being said we were able to import SD out of the camera in 5.0.4 but we needed the upgrade to import hd.

John Kopicko · June 25th, 2007, 10:39 AM

I encountered the exact same problems while capturing footage. I searched high and low for an answer and I finally found it on another forum. As far as I know this is the reason for your problem. FCP 5.0 and below is not compatible with canon's 24f. You were right to capture off of the easy settings but the 24f conversion simply isn't compatible. I believe that all FCP versions 5.1 and above are indeed compatible with 24f however I have yet to test this. I will be doing so with in the next week as soon as I purchase FCS 2. If this is not correct I apologize but, to the best of my knowledge, this is the right answer.

Jamie Allan · June 29th, 2007, 05:03 AM

Remember that the 24f mode is fake progressive scan, which is why:

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the 24f conversion simply isn't compatible.

Which is true for most older version NLEs, I'd advise 6.0+ for complete satisfaction. You could also transcode it, but you'll need a capture card. I don't think this has anything to do with pal/ntsc tho?

Harry Bromley-Davenport · June 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM

Hi from NTSC land.

The first version of FCP able to ingest 24f via firewire was version 5.1.4.

The only other way to ingest 24f is via the SDI port on the Canon. You will need a card like a Blackmagic or AJA in your Mac to ingest that.

The method of going SDI is very time consuming and boring, involving a long render time to get it to 23.976. If you want the method, then go to LAFCPUG.com and look up my posts under the name "harry323". I gave the whole method there about a year ago in full detail.

Best wishes,

Harry

June 20th, 2007, 04:17 AM	#1
Chris Fraser New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nairobi Posts: 7	Capturing HD in FCP Hi. Hope someone out there can help me. I've been running my XLH1 on SD on FCP PAL (v 5.0.4) and it works fine. Recently I shot some HD footage and converted FCP to HD via Easy setup (1080i 50) FCP can see and control the camera on startup but when I select log and capture the HD capture window appears allowing me to play,stop and jog etc but there is no image on the capture window. FCP can read the time code but is unable to capture either by logging or 'capture now'. The XL VCR menu settings are are set to the default settings. I'd be grateful for any assistance.

June 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM	#3
Chris Fraser New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nairobi Posts: 7	Capturing HD in FCP Hi Alistair. Can't be the cable. I've tried both 400 and 800 firewire. I think it's a problem with the camera settings. I was able to load HD footage from a Sony camera using the same FCP settings. I agree, we need help.

June 22nd, 2007, 12:40 PM	#4
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Are you certain that FCP 5.0.4 works for the setup you're trying to use? I know many of us had to wait for 5.1 to be released before we were able to import HD footage in NTSC land. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

June 25th, 2007, 02:43 AM	#5
Chris Fraser New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nairobi Posts: 7	Capturing HD in FCP Thanks Nick. Appreciate your reply. Will get the upgrade and let you know. By the way I'm on Pal. Thanks again

June 25th, 2007, 10:15 AM	#6
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Chris, copy that. I think many of the people on this board are ntsc guys unfortunately, and we can only guess at things in PAL land. That being said we were able to import SD out of the camera in 5.0.4 but we needed the upgrade to import hd. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

June 20th, 2007, 02:37 PM	#2
Alistair Briggs New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 11	Hi I have a similar problem. I can digitise with the set-up on DV, but FCP refuses to see the camera if settings are for HDV. I have a very old firewire lead (one of the first generation, cost me over £50!! some years ago!) - could it be the cable? Can anyone put us straight on setting up fcp to in take HDV via the HVD setting! A.

June 25th, 2007, 10:39 AM	#7
John Kopicko New Boot Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 5	I encountered the exact same problems while capturing footage. I searched high and low for an answer and I finally found it on another forum. As far as I know this is the reason for your problem. FCP 5.0 and below is not compatible with canon's 24f. You were right to capture off of the easy settings but the 24f conversion simply isn't compatible. I believe that all FCP versions 5.1 and above are indeed compatible with 24f however I have yet to test this. I will be doing so with in the next week as soon as I purchase FCS 2. If this is not correct I apologize but, to the best of my knowledge, this is the right answer.

June 29th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#9
Harry Bromley-Davenport Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: LA CA Posts: 317	Hi from NTSC land. The first version of FCP able to ingest 24f via firewire was version 5.1.4. The only other way to ingest 24f is via the SDI port on the Canon. You will need a card like a Blackmagic or AJA in your Mac to ingest that. The method of going SDI is very time consuming and boring, involving a long render time to get it to 23.976. If you want the method, then go to LAFCPUG.com and look up my posts under the name "harry323". I gave the whole method there about a year ago in full detail. Best wishes, Harry