best compression to share H1 footage at DVinfo.net

Nathan Quattrini · February 21st, 2007, 03:57 PM

as compression like wmv muds the heck out of such lovely footage, what would you guys recommend using to make videos to share from the H1. I do have sorensen squeeze 4 so i have alot of choices...

Brian Critchlow · February 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM

H264 I have had luck with, especially for HD.

-brian

Warwick!
I'm a Johnson & Wales alum

Nathan Quattrini · February 22nd, 2007, 10:10 AM

Where would I find that codec? And how would I compress to it? And what did you graduate with? Something in the food industry I would guess? Small world ;)

Vincent Rozenberg · February 22nd, 2007, 10:43 AM

If you're working with FCP then you can make H264 (QT) files with both the export function and Compressor. My vote goes to H264 as well by the way.

Brian Critchlow · February 22nd, 2007, 10:50 AM

Final cut export will get you what you want. Also Quicktime Pro export will work.

I actually graduated from the JWU school of technology with a web degree, then transfered to University of California for my film degree.

Nathan Quattrini · February 22nd, 2007, 02:05 PM

Oops my mistake :D Well I`m using a PC actually with Premiere Pro 2.0, but i did finally find the export option, I didn`t know it was a quicktime thing, thanks guys :) So anyone with QT will be able to view it right? Any suggestions on the dimensions, compression settings etc?Its a quick 2 minute demo

Brian Critchlow · February 22nd, 2007, 02:43 PM

It depends on your source format and the average bandwidth of your client.
If its DV 720x480, you can keep that resolution with H264 and limit to 600-700kbps. This will work on average for DSL and cable subscribers. If its not quite forking for you, take the resolution down a bit. Keep your aspect ratio correct though.
Make sure you deinterlace. Make the audio 128kbps. Keep your framerate.

Anyone with quicktime 7 or better can view H264.

I wouldnt recommend delivering in HD resolutions. Most computers over a year or so old cant process H264 HD.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/techn.../h264/faq.html

Nathan Quattrini · February 22nd, 2007, 04:58 PM

well i just want to share it here. For general feedback and "oooo look at H1 footage', but i don`t want to lose the visual quality of it. Its 1440x1080. Its only being posted here and a few other forums, nothing big. Like Steven Dempsy I believe put up a few H1 videos like that....wondering if he could chime in?

Nathan Quattrini · February 23rd, 2007, 10:06 AM

I tried using premieres Media Encoder with QT h264. However it won`t let me resize it, i tried exporting at half size (720x540) and it just shrinks the frame you can see, not the actual video. What did everyone else use thats posted video from the H1?

*EDIT* Ok so the built in Adobe Media Encoder sucks. I used 'export movie' with the same settings and the video look as it should, no glitches, no jumpiness (aside my shaky hand ;) ). While it seems only a temporary solution to the problem because exporting uncompressed to make flv later on won`t work, it works for the time being and what I need at this moment in time

*edit again* H264 while works, makes it look pale color wise, i tried planar RGB which looked stellar until i saw the file size. Ugh.

Herman Van Deventer · February 23rd, 2007, 06:35 PM

Nathan / Try Mpeg Streamclip freeware for pc and mac / accept m2t /
cineform avi / converts to mpeg 4 / quiktime / and avi with all the popular
codecs onboard. Easy to use / Great results.

Peace / Herman

February 21st, 2007, 03:57 PM	#1
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	best compression to share H1 footage as compression like wmv muds the heck out of such lovely footage, what would you guys recommend using to make videos to share from the H1. I do have sorensen squeeze 4 so i have alot of choices... __________________ Cinematography Site

February 22nd, 2007, 10:10 AM	#3
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	Where would I find that codec? And how would I compress to it? And what did you graduate with? Something in the food industry I would guess? Small world ;) __________________ Cinematography Site

February 22nd, 2007, 02:05 PM	#6
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	Oops my mistake :D Well I`m using a PC actually with Premiere Pro 2.0, but i did finally find the export option, I didn`t know it was a quicktime thing, thanks guys :) So anyone with QT will be able to view it right? Any suggestions on the dimensions, compression settings etc?Its a quick 2 minute demo __________________ Cinematography Site

February 22nd, 2007, 04:58 PM	#8
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	well i just want to share it here. For general feedback and "oooo look at H1 footage', but i don`t want to lose the visual quality of it. Its 1440x1080. Its only being posted here and a few other forums, nothing big. Like Steven Dempsy I believe put up a few H1 videos like that....wondering if he could chime in? __________________ Cinematography Site

February 23rd, 2007, 10:06 AM	#9
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	I tried using premieres Media Encoder with QT h264. However it won`t let me resize it, i tried exporting at half size (720x540) and it just shrinks the frame you can see, not the actual video. What did everyone else use thats posted video from the H1? EDIT Ok so the built in Adobe Media Encoder sucks. I used 'export movie' with the same settings and the video look as it should, no glitches, no jumpiness (aside my shaky hand ;) ). While it seems only a temporary solution to the problem because exporting uncompressed to make flv later on won`t work, it works for the time being and what I need at this moment in time edit again H264 while works, makes it look pale color wise, i tried planar RGB which looked stellar until i saw the file size. Ugh. __________________ Cinematography Site Last edited by Nathan Quattrini; February 23rd, 2007 at 01:56 PM.

February 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM	#2
Brian Critchlow Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 133	H264 I have had luck with, especially for HD. -brian Warwick! I'm a Johnson & Wales alum

February 22nd, 2007, 10:43 AM	#4
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	If you're working with FCP then you can make H264 (QT) files with both the export function and Compressor. My vote goes to H264 as well by the way.

February 22nd, 2007, 10:50 AM	#5
Brian Critchlow Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 133	Final cut export will get you what you want. Also Quicktime Pro export will work. I actually graduated from the JWU school of technology with a web degree, then transfered to University of California for my film degree.

February 22nd, 2007, 02:43 PM	#7
Brian Critchlow Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 133	It depends on your source format and the average bandwidth of your client. If its DV 720x480, you can keep that resolution with H264 and limit to 600-700kbps. This will work on average for DSL and cable subscribers. If its not quite forking for you, take the resolution down a bit. Keep your aspect ratio correct though. Make sure you deinterlace. Make the audio 128kbps. Keep your framerate. Anyone with quicktime 7 or better can view H264. I wouldnt recommend delivering in HD resolutions. Most computers over a year or so old cant process H264 HD. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/techn.../h264/faq.html

February 23rd, 2007, 06:35 PM	#10
Herman Van Deventer Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape town South-Africa Posts: 251	solution Nathan / Try Mpeg Streamclip freeware for pc and mac / accept m2t / cineform avi / converts to mpeg 4 / quiktime / and avi with all the popular codecs onboard. Easy to use / Great results. Peace / Herman