San Juan Islands at DVinfo.net

Steven Dempsey · August 3rd, 2006, 11:45 AM

This is a work in progress. I'm intending on extending it when I go whale watching soon :)

The water shots were taken from a ferry but the floor was vibrating so excessively, it was impossible to get a steady shot but I threw them in there anyway because they kind of look like a poor man's flyover :)

http://media.dvinfo.net/xlh1/disjecta/FridayHarbor.wmv

Dan Keaton · August 3rd, 2006, 12:31 PM

Wow!

Very nice footage!

Robert Sanders · August 3rd, 2006, 12:48 PM

Finally a 35mm adapter that actually works. Breathtaking!

Simon Duncan · August 3rd, 2006, 01:02 PM

Very impressive. Just keeps getting better.

Steven could you explain the workflow to get these shots.

Meaning I believe you are shooting onto Tape but the final mwv file is 1440 x 1080. So what is your process to bring up to the res of wmv file?

Also any post filters or effects added to the images?

Well done yet again.

Barry Gregg · August 3rd, 2006, 02:55 PM

Very nice Steven. I've had good luck shooting on the ferry putting the camera on a monopod and stabilzing that to the rail with my hand and putting the monopod on my foot to absorb the vibrations of the boat. It is hard to get rid of the boat's vibrations.
Barry

Steven Dempsey · August 3rd, 2006, 03:05 PM

Simon, I'm not sure I understand your question. The native res of the camera is 1440x1080 so I don't need to uprez anything.

I capture in Premiere Pro 2.0 via the Cineform plugin and do all my edits and then export it to WMV....

Nothing was done regarding filters aside from the use of an ND grad filter for the sunset shots. I just did a levels adjustment and letterboxed to 2:35:1 in post.

Barry, thanks for the tips.

Robert, perhaps you misunderstood or maybe you were joking, this is all done with the native 20x lens :)

Simon Duncan · August 3rd, 2006, 03:17 PM

Sorry Steven it is just my lack of understanding of the Camera. Since I thought that when you record to Tape the camera encodes into an mpg2 HDV format and this crunches down the image quality. I always thought that to get 1440 x 1080 one had to use the SDI out to some hard drive configuration to be able to capture the full potential of this camera. I am even more impressed now that I understand the images you are getting are ones recorded to tape. My little XL1 pales in comparssion. It is still in nappies compared with what you are getting out of the XLH1. Please keep the vids coming they are a real inspiration.

Brent Ethington · August 4th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Steven,

thanks for posting - it's very nice indeed!

In the various footage you've posted here, I've found that the chroma compression issues are very visible (purple and green fringes on high contrast scene elements) - to the point where they're distracting (they seem to jump out at me as I marvel at the quality of the scenes). Have you ever tried using some of Chris' setting recommendations (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=72218) to try to reduce them?

Steven Dempsey · August 5th, 2006, 01:51 AM

I think the issue is related to my having the sharpness tweaked somewhat. I'm going to be reducing that a bit and doing some more test shots so we shall see.

Oleg Kalyan · August 7th, 2006, 05:34 AM

Steven, the score really compliments nice footage, which soundtrack of Hans Zimmer is it?

Mack Fisher · August 7th, 2006, 01:56 PM

I must say Steven, that you and Robert Glusic are the reason I started shooting nature about 1 and 1/2 ago and I havent stopped since. You truley have an eye for composition and know how to use your tools.

Curtis Bouvier · August 8th, 2006, 11:43 AM

God damn.... I cannot wait to get my H1 with the manual 6x, I will be doing short subjects like steven aside from making short films, however my subjects will be the great canadian north, ice bergs, northern lights, the polar bears in churchill, the endless northern sunsets past the arctic circle..you name it.

your work is amazing steve! I can't wait to see more.

=D

Curtis Bouvier · August 8th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Ethington

Steven,

thanks for posting - it's very nice indeed!

In the various footage you've posted here, I've found that the chroma compression issues are very visible (purple and green fringes on high contrast scene elements) - to the point where they're distracting (they seem to jump out at me as I marvel at the quality of the scenes). Have you ever tried using some of Chris' setting recommendations (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=72218) to try to reduce them?

that's the only downfall of the 20x that limits it's image when comparing to film. I am 100% confident that with the 6x manual HD coming, chroma aberration will be rid of, and the image quality will be at least 90% as good as film, and photoshop will probably cover the other 10%.

Peter J Alessandria · August 9th, 2006, 10:22 PM

Steve - very nice stuff. Is this 24f, 30f or 60i footage?

Steven Dempsey · August 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM

Thanks...I almost exclusively shoot in 24F

August 3rd, 2006, 11:45 AM	#1
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	San Juan Islands This is a work in progress. I'm intending on extending it when I go whale watching soon :) The water shots were taken from a ferry but the floor was vibrating so excessively, it was impossible to get a steady shot but I threw them in there anyway because they kind of look like a poor man's flyover :) http://media.dvinfo.net/xlh1/disjecta/FridayHarbor.wmv __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

August 3rd, 2006, 12:31 PM	#2
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Wow! Very nice footage! __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

August 3rd, 2006, 12:48 PM	#3
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	Finally a 35mm adapter that actually works. Breathtaking! __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

August 3rd, 2006, 01:02 PM	#4
Simon Duncan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Angers, France Posts: 181	Workflow Very impressive. Just keeps getting better. Steven could you explain the workflow to get these shots. Meaning I believe you are shooting onto Tape but the final mwv file is 1440 x 1080. So what is your process to bring up to the res of wmv file? Also any post filters or effects added to the images? Well done yet again.

August 3rd, 2006, 02:55 PM	#5
Barry Gregg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 104	Very nice Steven. I've had good luck shooting on the ferry putting the camera on a monopod and stabilzing that to the rail with my hand and putting the monopod on my foot to absorb the vibrations of the boat. It is hard to get rid of the boat's vibrations. Barry __________________ Walk in the light. www.barrygregg.us

August 3rd, 2006, 03:05 PM	#6
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Simon, I'm not sure I understand your question. The native res of the camera is 1440x1080 so I don't need to uprez anything. I capture in Premiere Pro 2.0 via the Cineform plugin and do all my edits and then export it to WMV.... Nothing was done regarding filters aside from the use of an ND grad filter for the sunset shots. I just did a levels adjustment and letterboxed to 2:35:1 in post. Barry, thanks for the tips. Robert, perhaps you misunderstood or maybe you were joking, this is all done with the native 20x lens :) __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

August 3rd, 2006, 03:17 PM	#7
Simon Duncan Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Angers, France Posts: 181	Sorry Steven it is just my lack of understanding of the Camera. Since I thought that when you record to Tape the camera encodes into an mpg2 HDV format and this crunches down the image quality. I always thought that to get 1440 x 1080 one had to use the SDI out to some hard drive configuration to be able to capture the full potential of this camera. I am even more impressed now that I understand the images you are getting are ones recorded to tape. My little XL1 pales in comparssion. It is still in nappies compared with what you are getting out of the XLH1. Please keep the vids coming they are a real inspiration.

August 4th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#8
Brent Ethington Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WA Posts: 180	Steven, thanks for posting - it's very nice indeed! In the various footage you've posted here, I've found that the chroma compression issues are very visible (purple and green fringes on high contrast scene elements) - to the point where they're distracting (they seem to jump out at me as I marvel at the quality of the scenes). Have you ever tried using some of Chris' setting recommendations (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=72218) to try to reduce them?

August 5th, 2006, 01:51 AM	#9
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	I think the issue is related to my having the sharpness tweaked somewhat. I'm going to be reducing that a bit and doing some more test shots so we shall see. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

August 7th, 2006, 05:34 AM	#10
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Steven, the score really compliments nice footage, which soundtrack of Hans Zimmer is it?

August 7th, 2006, 01:56 PM	#11
Mack Fisher Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 158	I must say Steven, that you and Robert Glusic are the reason I started shooting nature about 1 and 1/2 ago and I havent stopped since. You truley have an eye for composition and know how to use your tools.

August 8th, 2006, 11:43 AM	#12
Curtis Bouvier New Boot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 17	God damn.... I cannot wait to get my H1 with the manual 6x, I will be doing short subjects like steven aside from making short films, however my subjects will be the great canadian north, ice bergs, northern lights, the polar bears in churchill, the endless northern sunsets past the arctic circle..you name it. your work is amazing steve! I can't wait to see more. =D

August 9th, 2006, 10:22 PM	#14
Peter J Alessandria Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 293	Steve - very nice stuff. Is this 24f, 30f or 60i footage?

August 9th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#15
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Thanks...I almost exclusively shoot in 24F __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/