New XL Series HD 6X Wide Angle Lens

Barry Gregg · October 19th, 2006, 06:22 PM

My Cinetech matte box worked fine with XL-1 and the 3x lens. It does use 4x5.65 filters. I sold the 3x when I got the H1, so I can't check the 3x with the H1 and Cinetech matte. Will the new HD 6x have the same angle of view as the 3x?

Yi Fong Yu · October 19th, 2006, 06:53 PM

i sure would love to see this added to the dvinfo.net's articles comparing diff. lenses =).

Lorry Smyth · October 19th, 2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yi Fong Yu

i sure would love to see this added to the dvinfo.net's articles comparing diff. lenses =).

Good idea, or maybe Chris could start a main section on the subject of lenses for the XL-H1, now that it will be available soon as a body-only option :)

Nick Hiltgen · October 19th, 2006, 08:25 PM

Barry thanks, I've been kicking around the idea of the cinetech mattebox or the chrosziel one. Did you get the swing away version?

Chris Hurd · October 19th, 2006, 10:37 PM

I'm working on an XL H1 Lens Options article and hope to have it ready pretty soon.

;-)

Barry Gregg · October 19th, 2006, 10:44 PM

I have the four stage swing away and the follow focus.

Lorry Smyth · October 19th, 2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

I'm working on an XL H1 Lens Options article and hope to have it ready pretty soon.

;-)

Thanks Chris. Looking forward in reading it!

Nick Hiltgen · October 22nd, 2006, 11:11 AM

Thanks Barry good to know.

Floris van Eck · October 22nd, 2006, 11:49 AM

Where do this XL-H1 body only rumors come from? I am in the process of buying a new HD camera... and the XL-H1 is definately an option. However, I do not really like the 20x HD lens that comes with it. So I am looking at the wide-angle lens. But that will bring the total to like $12,000. If I can buy the XL-H1 body only for $1000 cheaper, it will save me $1,000.

So it would be nice if someone can confirm this rumors. Chris might be the best person to tell if this is very likely to happen or only a rumor.

EDIT: Changed math

Dan Keaton · October 22nd, 2006, 01:37 PM

Post deleted, math corrected.

Jonas Nystrom · October 22nd, 2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Gregg

Will the new HD 6x have the same angle of view as the 3x?

Both starts at 3.4 mm focal length - should be the same angle/view. If you are planning to use two glass filters you should need one 4x4' tray and the second filter tray 4x5,65. If you just need one filter, 4x4' will work.

Just for the fun of it (and your drowling) a 6x attached to XL H1 enclosed.

Richard Alvarez · October 22nd, 2006, 04:05 PM

ggghhhhhrrrllllmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Chris Hurd · October 22nd, 2006, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floris van Eck

I am in the process of buying a new HD camera... and the XL-H1 is definately an option.

I don't get it... just yesterday you said you were planning to buy an GY-HD200 or 250. Did you change your mind again? Re: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=77970

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floris van Eck

I am planning to buy a GY-HD200 or HD-250.

Floris van Eck · October 22nd, 2006, 05:18 PM

That's right Chris. At this moment, I am not too sure. All I know is that I am buying a Canon, Sony or JVC. I am in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia at this moment where I had a hands-on with the Canon XL-H1 and I liked it quite a bit.

I am just getting as much information as possible before I am going into a store and buy one. And also, some of the camera's are not available yet. So it's hard to try them out. And like I said, I am planning to buy a camera, and my planning changes rapidly at this moment. Anyway, what you are saying is completly true. I just want to keep all options open.

Dan Keaton · October 22nd, 2006, 05:50 PM

Dear Floris,

For what it's worth: The Canon XL H1 has far exceeded my expectations.

For me, with much less than 20-20 vision in my right eye, and the general requirement of being in focus when using HD, I find the auto focus in the XL H1 to be fantastic.

Yes, there will be times that it may focus on the wrong object but overall I am very pleased. When this occurs, it is usually easy to get the camera to get it to focus on the correct object.

The low light performance also exceed my expectations.

Having the full set of timecode in/out, genlock, and HD-SDI makes for a wonderful camera.

I also realize that other HD cameras also produce a great picture, but I expected the XL H1 to let me down in some area, but it hasn't so far.

I expected problems with HDV, such as artifacts, but in normal viewing, I have not noticed any so far.

For me, the stabilizer (OIS) is very important whenever I am using the camera without a tripod. Personally, I would seriously miss this feature if it were absent.

October 19th, 2006, 06:22 PM	#46
Barry Gregg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 104	My Cinetech matte box worked fine with XL-1 and the 3x lens. It does use 4x5.65 filters. I sold the 3x when I got the H1, so I can't check the 3x with the H1 and Cinetech matte. Will the new HD 6x have the same angle of view as the 3x? __________________ Walk in the light. www.barrygregg.us

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Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	i sure would love to see this added to the dvinfo.net's articles comparing diff. lenses =). __________________ bow wow wow

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Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Barry thanks, I've been kicking around the idea of the cinetech mattebox or the chrosziel one. Did you get the swing away version? __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

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Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I'm working on an XL H1 Lens Options article and hope to have it ready pretty soon. ;-) __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 19th, 2006, 10:44 PM	#51
Barry Gregg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 104	I have the four stage swing away and the follow focus. __________________ Walk in the light. www.barrygregg.us

October 22nd, 2006, 11:11 AM	#53
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Thanks Barry good to know. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

October 22nd, 2006, 11:49 AM	#54
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Where do this XL-H1 body only rumors come from? I am in the process of buying a new HD camera... and the XL-H1 is definately an option. However, I do not really like the 20x HD lens that comes with it. So I am looking at the wide-angle lens. But that will bring the total to like $12,000. If I can buy the XL-H1 body only for $1000 cheaper, it will save me $1,000. So it would be nice if someone can confirm this rumors. Chris might be the best person to tell if this is very likely to happen or only a rumor. EDIT: Changed math Last edited by Floris van Eck; October 22nd, 2006 at 05:14 PM.

October 22nd, 2006, 01:37 PM	#55
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Post deleted, math corrected. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia Last edited by Dan Keaton; October 22nd, 2006 at 05:36 PM.

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Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	ggghhhhhrrrllllmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

October 22nd, 2006, 05:18 PM	#59
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	That's right Chris. At this moment, I am not too sure. All I know is that I am buying a Canon, Sony or JVC. I am in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia at this moment where I had a hands-on with the Canon XL-H1 and I liked it quite a bit. I am just getting as much information as possible before I am going into a store and buy one. And also, some of the camera's are not available yet. So it's hard to try them out. And like I said, I am planning to buy a camera, and my planning changes rapidly at this moment. Anyway, what you are saying is completly true. I just want to keep all options open.

October 22nd, 2006, 05:50 PM	#60
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Floris, For what it's worth: The Canon XL H1 has far exceeded my expectations. For me, with much less than 20-20 vision in my right eye, and the general requirement of being in focus when using HD, I find the auto focus in the XL H1 to be fantastic. Yes, there will be times that it may focus on the wrong object but overall I am very pleased. When this occurs, it is usually easy to get the camera to get it to focus on the correct object. The low light performance also exceed my expectations. Having the full set of timecode in/out, genlock, and HD-SDI makes for a wonderful camera. I also realize that other HD cameras also produce a great picture, but I expected the XL H1 to let me down in some area, but it hasn't so far. I expected problems with HDV, such as artifacts, but in normal viewing, I have not noticed any so far. For me, the stabilizer (OIS) is very important whenever I am using the camera without a tripod. Personally, I would seriously miss this feature if it were absent. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia