New XL Series HD 6X Wide Angle Lens

Tony Davies-Patrick · October 13th, 2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas Nystrom

According to Creative Video in the UK it has 82mm thread mount for filters!

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/publi...er=canon_xl-6x

http://www.creativevideo.co.uk/publi...=tiffen_uvp-82

I honestly thought that it was 72mm like all the previous lenses. It would be strange that it is 82mm as this would mean that all those screw-in filters and attachments for the 72mm threads on previous XL 3X, 16X 20X and 20X HD wouldn't fit (at least without a step-up filter).
If it is 82mm then possibly this was chosen by Canon to help avoid corner vignette problems at the widest lens setting when filters etc are used.

Nick Hiltgen · October 13th, 2006, 10:22 AM

Isnt this supposed to be released soon? has anyone heard anything else about it? I've been on two shoots in the past week where I would have loved a wide lens but it still hasn't come out yet. IS it still held up by the fcc thing?

A. J. deLange · October 13th, 2006, 12:48 PM

Disappointment! The specs at Creative Video make it clear that all three rings are encoder types. I guess the solid feel and repeatability of mechanical rings is a thing of the past.

Yi Fong Yu · October 13th, 2006, 12:58 PM

whoa... so... $9k for the XL H1 and $4k for this... not including accessories. whoa =). is it me or are modern tech. hobbies getting more and more expensive =).

Nate Weaver · October 13th, 2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yi Fong Yu

is it me or are modern tech. hobbies getting more and more expensive =).

[hitches pants]

"Well, that's your problem, right there, buddy. You're buying more or less pro gear and calling it a hobby"

Robert Sanders · October 13th, 2006, 01:06 PM

Near F900 quality for less than $14 grand and people are COMPLAINING about it.

Chris Hurd · October 13th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Just to confirm, YES the filter thread diameter is 82mm.

YES all three control rings are the servo type without hard stops.

Just like the stock 20x HD lens, there is a focus distance display (meters or feet) and a "zoom number" display (on a scale of 0-99) in the viewfinder, and a focus distance / focal length preset switch on the side of the lens.

I don't see how anyone can complain about the price of this gear -- it's either one of two things. It's a business tool or it's a luxury item. If you're making money with it, then it's a business tool. If you're not making money with it, then it's a luxury item. In either case, buy what you can afford.

Patricia Lamm · October 16th, 2006, 12:34 PM

Back to an earlier question: Isn't this supposed to be released soon? Anyone have an update on ETA?

Chris Hurd · October 16th, 2006, 12:43 PM

First part of November is what I'm hearing.

Robert Sanders · October 16th, 2006, 04:13 PM

Jim Martin at Birns & Sawyer just said first week of November.

Gary McClurg · October 16th, 2006, 04:22 PM

Just spoke to one of the sponsors and they said the 25th and also said their will be a body only xl h1 as well around then... I was hoping he met the 25th of this month...

Tony Davies-Patrick · October 17th, 2006, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary McClurg

... will be a body only xl h1 as well around then...

At long last! Sounds very promising.

Nick Hiltgen · October 19th, 2006, 02:55 AM

Ok so here's the enxt question, what mattebox can we use with this that won't vinette? My math may be wrong but it would have to support something like a 24mm lens in 35mm world. which I believe is a wide angle. So what works with that?

Jonas Nystrom · October 19th, 2006, 03:12 AM

I asked the same question a few days ago! Have a look at the last page in the thread "Which mattebox do you have for your XL H1?" for some answers!

All the best!

Nick Hiltgen · October 19th, 2006, 01:55 PM

yeah I saw the responces, seems like they were all pretty vague, then chris hijacked the thread with his 10,000 post (some people...) I had mroe or less accepted that it wouldn't work with 4x4 filters (my filters are 4x5.65 anyhow) I'm more worried about the mattebox itself showing up in the frame (as I've seen happen with other lenses and matteboxes) but it is handy to know that none of the 4x4 frame boxes will work. Are we just limited to the wideangle ones?

October 13th, 2006, 10:22 AM	#32
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Isnt this supposed to be released soon? has anyone heard anything else about it? I've been on two shoots in the past week where I would have loved a wide lens but it still hasn't come out yet. IS it still held up by the fcc thing? __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

October 13th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#34
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	whoa... so... $9k for the XL H1 and $4k for this... not including accessories. whoa =). is it me or are modern tech. hobbies getting more and more expensive =). __________________ bow wow wow

October 13th, 2006, 01:06 PM	#36
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	Near F900 quality for less than $14 grand and people are COMPLAINING about it. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

October 13th, 2006, 06:54 PM	#37
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Just to confirm, YES the filter thread diameter is 82mm. YES all three control rings are the servo type without hard stops. Just like the stock 20x HD lens, there is a focus distance display (meters or feet) and a "zoom number" display (on a scale of 0-99) in the viewfinder, and a focus distance / focal length preset switch on the side of the lens. I don't see how anyone can complain about the price of this gear -- it's either one of two things. It's a business tool or it's a luxury item. If you're making money with it, then it's a business tool. If you're not making money with it, then it's a luxury item. In either case, buy what you can afford. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 16th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#39
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	First part of November is what I'm hearing. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 13th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#33
A. J. deLange Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: McLean, VA United States Posts: 749	Disappointment! The specs at Creative Video make it clear that all three rings are encoder types. I guess the solid feel and repeatability of mechanical rings is a thing of the past.

October 16th, 2006, 12:34 PM	#38
Patricia Lamm Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Okemos, MI Posts: 174	Back to an earlier question: Isn't this supposed to be released soon? Anyone have an update on ETA?

October 16th, 2006, 04:13 PM	#40
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	Jim Martin at Birns & Sawyer just said first week of November. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

October 16th, 2006, 04:22 PM	#41
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	Just spoke to one of the sponsors and they said the 25th and also said their will be a body only xl h1 as well around then... I was hoping he met the 25th of this month...

October 19th, 2006, 02:55 AM	#43
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Ok so here's the enxt question, what mattebox can we use with this that won't vinette? My math may be wrong but it would have to support something like a 24mm lens in 35mm world. which I believe is a wide angle. So what works with that? __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

October 19th, 2006, 03:12 AM	#44
Jonas Nystrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 306	I asked the same question a few days ago! Have a look at the last page in the thread "Which mattebox do you have for your XL H1?" for some answers! All the best! __________________ Jonas Nyström, DoP :: HOT SHOT® SWEDEN :: www.hotshot.nu :: RED #1567, RED 18-50mm T3 :: XL A1, Letus Extreme :: XL H1, 20X & 6X lens (for sale) :: www.vimeo.com/nystrom

October 19th, 2006, 01:55 PM	#45
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	yeah I saw the responces, seems like they were all pretty vague, then chris hijacked the thread with his 10,000 post (some people...) I had mroe or less accepted that it wouldn't work with 4x4 filters (my filters are 4x5.65 anyhow) I'm more worried about the mattebox itself showing up in the frame (as I've seen happen with other lenses and matteboxes) but it is handy to know that none of the 4x4 frame boxes will work. Are we just limited to the wideangle ones? __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...