Article on TV show being shot on XL H1 at DVinfo.net

Peter Wiley · July 3rd, 2006, 12:45 PM

Here is an article on "Lovespring" being shot for Lifetime on HDV on the XL H1.

http://www.studiodaily.com/main/tech...dies/6788.html

Steve Rosen · July 13th, 2006, 04:12 PM

I'm surprised that there has been no response to this article since I first read it over a week ago...

Many have wondered if the H1 could/would be an accepted HDV camera in the world of broadcasting, and here's a "produced" show that has made the choice to originate in HDV with multiple H1s when, I assume, they could have budgeted for almost any camera... Good for DP Laura Merians and good for LifeTime...

Interesting, isn't it, that here's a woman DP pushing the video envelope, not unlike the ground broken by Nancy Schreiber with the DVX on NOVEMBER, and yet there are so few women commenting in this forum...

Maybe they have adopted my favorite motto "let's stop talking about it and do it".

Brian Critchlow · July 13th, 2006, 04:21 PM

Being a H1 owner I may be a bit biased, but when most of the HD delivery methods use 9mbps 7mbps or less and already compress to mpeg2 or mpeg4, I really dont see that having a $60k camera could really look much better at the end of the pipe.

Granted, I'm not figuring in lenses & CCD size, but I think the HDV standard has some footing until the broadcast levels are raised above 25mbps.

Floris van Eck · October 30th, 2006, 09:50 AM

Which item are they using as a shoulder mount (attached to the bottom)?

Mark Bournes · October 30th, 2006, 10:33 AM

The PBS Series Healthy Body Healthy Mind is shot with the XL-H1. Go to healthybodyhealthymind.com to see clips.

Brian Critchlow · October 30th, 2006, 12:31 PM

"Site under construction"

Mark Bournes · October 30th, 2006, 12:45 PM

The site works fine, you can play and see clips there, click on "life after heart attack"

Barry Gribble · October 30th, 2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

The series is being shot in 1080/24-frame mode and recorded to 60-minute HDV cassettes.

and

Quote:

LM: Because the camera offers the uncompressed HD-SDI and SD-SDI output, we can do a high-quality image transfer to HD cam; an archival format that is acceptable by the network.

So this means that they are not using the SDI, uncomressed video output while shoot? They are just shooting on to the HDV and then outputing ths signal through SDI to a HDCam deck just for archiving? Is HDCam that much more stable for archiving? Or do they just not know yet.

I figured that for broadcast they would be recording directly from the SDI outs. Hmmmm.

Floris van Eck · October 31st, 2006, 03:00 AM

Does anyone know which shoulder mount device they are using for the show?

Steve Rosen · October 31st, 2006, 08:18 AM

Yeah, Image 2000, Birns & Sawyer, $400 US... I've got one, but don't find it that useful.. I've completely redesigned the shoulder area of my camera instead - much better - I'd post a pic, but I don't have, or want, a site...

Greg Boston · October 31st, 2006, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Rosen

I'd post a pic, but I don't have, or want, a site...

You can attach a picture here. Just scroll down to the Attach Files section of the reply editor.

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Steve Rosen · October 31st, 2006, 04:03 PM

Okay, I'll take a pic of my camera and post it.. I've had several long-time XL users gawk over my camera, saying that it's how Canon should have built it in the first place.. It is heavy, though (Anton Bauer batteries are heavy in themselves) but I'm used to an Aaton 16mm camera that's 5 lbs heavier, so it's still light to me...

Steve Rosen · November 1st, 2006, 01:23 PM

Here's the way I've set up my camera for documentary filmmaking. I should note that I have always modified my cameras to suit my shooting style.. back in the early 70's I modified a 16mm Bolex to take 400' magazines mounted on the back, which involved reconfiguring the optics of the viewfinder..

This camera (the H1) is much easier to customize because it started out close (but no cigar)... The way it is set up here, the camera can be mounted and removed from a tripod without removing or adding pieces.. The grip setup is one I've had for 10 years that I use on my Aaton super16 camera. The nose mike is an AT, the wireless receiver is Lectronic, battery is Anton Bauer Hytron50.. the empty place on the back, above the battery, will hold a Firestore FS-C when it's perfected for HDV. Oh, and the pink band around the grip is a rubberband that they use to tie broccoli in the field - I was shooting fieldworkers for a United Way doc last month and stuck it on for good luck...

As I said, it is heavy, but the weight is well balanced... I often use the 3x3 Chrosziel instead of the 4x4 compendium matte box in the picture to save some weight though...

Ken Diewert · November 2nd, 2006, 12:01 AM

Looks pretty cool Steve. Is the Chroziel FF standard or did you modify it. I'm assuming if you're using it you must like it.

Steve Rosen · November 2nd, 2006, 08:15 AM

FF is standard "DV" unit - I got it to use with the 16x, but it works so well with the 20x that I tend to use it (the lens) more than I used to... I like this model because the focus scale is on the side of the focus sleeve, so you can see it from the viewfinder.. with the 16x I have another sleeve painted with the distance markings, so I can estimate focus from the viewfinder.. The matte box base is slightly modified, strengthened, and the front shoulder support is attached to it.

By-the-way, all of the modifications were done with the proverbial "simple hand tools" and the materials are: aluminum pieces that I bought at a hardware store, dense foam left over from cutting a case insert, and black leather cut from a purse I got for a buck at Good Will...

July 3rd, 2006, 12:45 PM	#1
Peter Wiley Major Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lewisburg PA Posts: 752	Article on TV show being shot on XL H1 Here is an article on "Lovespring" being shot for Lifetime on HDV on the XL H1. http://www.studiodaily.com/main/tech...dies/6788.html

October 30th, 2006, 10:33 AM	#5
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	The PBS Series Healthy Body Healthy Mind is shot with the XL-H1. Go to healthybodyhealthymind.com to see clips. __________________ Mark www.sharkvp.com

October 30th, 2006, 12:45 PM	#7
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	The site works fine, you can play and see clips there, click on "life after heart attack" __________________ Mark www.sharkvp.com

November 1st, 2006, 01:23 PM	#13
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Here's the way I've set up my camera for documentary filmmaking. I should note that I have always modified my cameras to suit my shooting style.. back in the early 70's I modified a 16mm Bolex to take 400' magazines mounted on the back, which involved reconfiguring the optics of the viewfinder.. This camera (the H1) is much easier to customize because it started out close (but no cigar)... The way it is set up here, the camera can be mounted and removed from a tripod without removing or adding pieces.. The grip setup is one I've had for 10 years that I use on my Aaton super16 camera. The nose mike is an AT, the wireless receiver is Lectronic, battery is Anton Bauer Hytron50.. the empty place on the back, above the battery, will hold a Firestore FS-C when it's perfected for HDV. Oh, and the pink band around the grip is a rubberband that they use to tie broccoli in the field - I was shooting fieldworkers for a United Way doc last month and stuck it on for good luck... As I said, it is heavy, but the weight is well balanced... I often use the 3x3 Chrosziel instead of the 4x4 compendium matte box in the picture to save some weight though... Attached Thumbnails

November 2nd, 2006, 12:01 AM	#14
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Looks pretty cool Steve. Is the Chroziel FF standard or did you modify it. I'm assuming if you're using it you must like it. __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX

July 13th, 2006, 04:12 PM	#2
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	I'm surprised that there has been no response to this article since I first read it over a week ago... Many have wondered if the H1 could/would be an accepted HDV camera in the world of broadcasting, and here's a "produced" show that has made the choice to originate in HDV with multiple H1s when, I assume, they could have budgeted for almost any camera... Good for DP Laura Merians and good for LifeTime... Interesting, isn't it, that here's a woman DP pushing the video envelope, not unlike the ground broken by Nancy Schreiber with the DVX on NOVEMBER, and yet there are so few women commenting in this forum... Maybe they have adopted my favorite motto "let's stop talking about it and do it".

July 13th, 2006, 04:21 PM	#3
Brian Critchlow Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 133	Being a H1 owner I may be a bit biased, but when most of the HD delivery methods use 9mbps 7mbps or less and already compress to mpeg2 or mpeg4, I really dont see that having a $60k camera could really look much better at the end of the pipe. Granted, I'm not figuring in lenses & CCD size, but I think the HDV standard has some footing until the broadcast levels are raised above 25mbps.

October 30th, 2006, 09:50 AM	#4
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Which item are they using as a shoulder mount (attached to the bottom)?

October 30th, 2006, 12:31 PM	#6
Brian Critchlow Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 133	"Site under construction"

October 31st, 2006, 03:00 AM	#9
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Does anyone know which shoulder mount device they are using for the show?

October 31st, 2006, 08:18 AM	#10
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Yeah, Image 2000, Birns & Sawyer, $400 US... I've got one, but don't find it that useful.. I've completely redesigned the shoulder area of my camera instead - much better - I'd post a pic, but I don't have, or want, a site...

October 31st, 2006, 04:03 PM	#12
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	Okay, I'll take a pic of my camera and post it.. I've had several long-time XL users gawk over my camera, saying that it's how Canon should have built it in the first place.. It is heavy, though (Anton Bauer batteries are heavy in themselves) but I'm used to an Aaton 16mm camera that's 5 lbs heavier, so it's still light to me...

November 2nd, 2006, 08:15 AM	#15
Steve Rosen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Monterey, California Posts: 895	FF is standard "DV" unit - I got it to use with the 16x, but it works so well with the 20x that I tend to use it (the lens) more than I used to... I like this model because the focus scale is on the side of the focus sleeve, so you can see it from the viewfinder.. with the 16x I have another sleeve painted with the distance markings, so I can estimate focus from the viewfinder.. The matte box base is slightly modified, strengthened, and the front shoulder support is attached to it. By-the-way, all of the modifications were done with the proverbial "simple hand tools" and the materials are: aluminum pieces that I bought at a hardware store, dense foam left over from cutting a case insert, and black leather cut from a purse I got for a buck at Good Will...