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Chris Hurd · May 29th, 2006, 11:13 PM

Disjecta preset vs. no preset. I wish I could say that the grain was intentional... but it wasn't. In my haste to grab these shots, the Gain was set to Auto instead of Zero, a careless mistake.

Yasser Kassana · May 30th, 2006, 02:50 AM

I know the grain wasn't intentional, but it looked damn filmic. Very very nice colours, how do you get those colours out of this camera!

K. Forman · May 30th, 2006, 05:00 AM

Hey, Big Dog! I heard about them tornados yesterday. Since you're posting, I take it you didn't blow off to Oz?

Chris Hurd · May 30th, 2006, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasser Kassana

How do you get those colours out of this camera!

Easy! The look on the left / top comes from the downloadable custom preset file called "Disjecta" contributed by Steven Dempsey. It has become my favorite custom preset. You can get it from our CP download library, which is a "sticky" thread at the top of this forum. See the discussion about the Disjecta preset here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=66605

The look on the right / bottom is just the XL H1 stock settings, no custom preset, white balance set to daylight, f/2.8 at 1/250th (the Disjecta version was shot 5/5.6 at 1/60th).

Keith, it was quite the sudden dust-up yesterday, it blew my skirt up a little bit, but we're still here and it left some incredible light behind. And we really needed the rain anyway!

Oleg Kalyan · May 30th, 2006, 06:51 AM

Very nice, good work!

Greg Boston · May 30th, 2006, 07:17 AM

Call me crazy, or a realist, but I like the colors of the non-preset frame on the right. At least in this shot anyway.

-gb-

K. Forman · May 30th, 2006, 07:22 AM

I agree with Greg, but I think the compression is a big part of that. In the left pic, you can see the compression artifacts.

Chris Hurd · May 30th, 2006, 08:11 AM

Compression artifacts are a function of the JPEG photo recording scheme in the Canon XL H1. Even on the "largest size, best quality" setting, there's still some .jpg compression artifacts. I wish Canon had included a RAW or TIFF photo mode for this camera. But my point is, the compression junk you see there is just the photo record process, nothing to do with video.

Greg Boston · May 30th, 2006, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

I agree with Greg, but I think the compression is a big part of that. In the left pic, you can see the compression artifacts.

Naw Keith, I was commenting just from the overall tonality of the thumbnails.

-gb-

K. Forman · May 30th, 2006, 08:22 AM

I just thought the settings exagerated the compression, specially around the rainbow. On the grass and trees, it really complimented them. I'm not sure which setting worked best on the horses. Without the change, it is more stark and grey, but the sky looks more realistic and natural.

Overall, it was an extremely beautiful example of the image quality.

Meryem Ersoz · May 30th, 2006, 08:39 AM

oo la la.

nice shots, both. it's always hard to pick. they're just different shots. the left has a more romantical quality, the right, as keith mentioned, more realistic, as the eye would experience it. i guess the choice all depends on the context you place the shot in...both pretty, thanks for sharing...

Pete Tomov · May 30th, 2006, 12:59 PM

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8523/img447228de.jpg

WOW!If I didn't already own a H1 I'd run out and get one right now!
The drop in resolution's caused by the gain and the compression of a low contrast shot.It's still pretty damn good for 2 min CC.

Greg Boston · May 30th, 2006, 01:20 PM

Forgot to mention earlier but I love the composition and framing of the shot. Nicely done, Chris.

-gb-

Greg Boston · May 30th, 2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Tomov

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8523/img447228de.jpg

WOW!If I didn't already own a H1 I'd run out and get one right now!
The drop in resolution's caused by the gain and the compression of a low contrast shot.It's still pretty damn good for 2 min CC.

Nice CC Pete, I think you brought out the best of both shots there.

-gb-

Chris Hurd · May 30th, 2006, 02:07 PM

Great job on that CC, Pete -- I went ahead and embedded your image inline for easier viewing.

May 29th, 2006, 11:13 PM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Golden Hour Rainbows Disjecta preset vs. no preset. I wish I could say that the grain was intentional... but it wasn't. In my haste to grab these shots, the Gain was set to Auto instead of Zero, a careless mistake. Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 30th, 2006, 05:00 AM	#3
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May 30th, 2006, 07:22 AM	#7
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I agree with Greg, but I think the compression is a big part of that. In the left pic, you can see the compression artifacts. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

May 30th, 2006, 08:11 AM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Compression artifacts are a function of the JPEG photo recording scheme in the Canon XL H1. Even on the "largest size, best quality" setting, there's still some .jpg compression artifacts. I wish Canon had included a RAW or TIFF photo mode for this camera. But my point is, the compression junk you see there is just the photo record process, nothing to do with video. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 30th, 2006, 08:22 AM	#10
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I just thought the settings exagerated the compression, specially around the rainbow. On the grass and trees, it really complimented them. I'm not sure which setting worked best on the horses. Without the change, it is more stark and grey, but the sky looks more realistic and natural. Overall, it was an extremely beautiful example of the image quality. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

May 30th, 2006, 02:50 AM	#2
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	I know the grain wasn't intentional, but it looked damn filmic. Very very nice colours, how do you get those colours out of this camera!

May 30th, 2006, 06:51 AM	#5
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Very nice, good work!

May 30th, 2006, 07:17 AM	#6
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Call me crazy, or a realist, but I like the colors of the non-preset frame on the right. At least in this shot anyway. -gb-

May 30th, 2006, 08:39 AM	#11
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	oo la la. nice shots, both. it's always hard to pick. they're just different shots. the left has a more romantical quality, the right, as keith mentioned, more realistic, as the eye would experience it. i guess the choice all depends on the context you place the shot in...both pretty, thanks for sharing...

May 30th, 2006, 12:59 PM	#12
Pete Tomov Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8523/img447228de.jpg WOW!If I didn't already own a H1 I'd run out and get one right now! The drop in resolution's caused by the gain and the compression of a low contrast shot.It's still pretty damn good for 2 min CC. Attached Thumbnails

May 30th, 2006, 01:20 PM	#13
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Forgot to mention earlier but I love the composition and framing of the shot. Nicely done, Chris. -gb-

May 30th, 2006, 02:07 PM	#15
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Great job on that CC, Pete -- I went ahead and embedded your image inline for easier viewing. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!