My Settings plus Footage

Bill Taka · May 5th, 2006, 08:21 PM

Did you get a XLH1?

Chris Hurd · May 5th, 2006, 09:17 PM

Bill I wish it was a GL H1.

Bill Taka · May 5th, 2006, 10:11 PM

Chris, I shoot all outdoors and I have tried everyone's preset, however I have yet to come up with a natural look. It seems the combination of exposure and natural light angle is effecting my presets. Have you come up with one that is giving you a wysiwyg look?

Chris Hurd · May 5th, 2006, 10:28 PM

Bill as you can see from my frames, everything I've done so far has been low light at dusk because my day is so filled up with other stuff I gotta do! Meaning I haven't had enough time to scout my own presets very much. The one thing I wanted to accomplish this weekend is a couple of different "film noir" styled black and white modes because I'm such a big fan of that kind of look.

In my opinion it's going to be very difficult to get what you're looking for, for two reasons. First, it's because the XL H1 out of the box doesn't give you the "reality" look. Instead you get the "Canon" look. Lots of folks prefer the Canon look to the real-world look, that's why they keep buying Canon cameras over and over. There's something about the Digic processor and a type of color that Canon calls "memory color." For the folks who don't like it, fortunately you can dial in whatever color you want.

The other reason is because outdoor light is constantly changing, from time to time and place to place. Where I'm at in Texas, we've just had some major rainfall (finally) and the daylight constantly cycles especially with all the different kinds of clouds the sunlight filters through. Just this evening toward sunset it was dark, then some clouds parted, it became bright, then dark as the clouds rolled in again, then bright when the sun reached the horizon under the cloud layer -- then the hues went all over the map, everything golden then orange then red -- then dark as the sun finally went down. All in the course of less than an hour.

On a typical cloudless summer day in Central Texas the color temperature outdoors will remain consistent from 9am until 7pm, and I can come up with a preset for that if I tried long and hard enough, but I doubt it would match *your* lighting wherever you are. To me outdoor light is a dynamic and constantly changing thing, and even when it ain't, it's different from the sunlight you're getting over at your place.

Bill Taka · May 5th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Yes I agree with you Chris, that is exactly it, the "dynamic outdoor lighting" in fact I have concluded for color, it's best to adjust the presets sparingly and color grade in post as I have done in the past with my XL1/XL2. No doubt blacks and highlights are more useful for custom presets.

May 5th, 2006, 08:21 PM	#31
Bill Taka Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 82	Chris, did I miss something! Did you get a XLH1?

May 5th, 2006, 09:17 PM	#32
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Bill I wish it was a GL H1. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 5th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#34
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Bill as you can see from my frames, everything I've done so far has been low light at dusk because my day is so filled up with other stuff I gotta do! Meaning I haven't had enough time to scout my own presets very much. The one thing I wanted to accomplish this weekend is a couple of different "film noir" styled black and white modes because I'm such a big fan of that kind of look. In my opinion it's going to be very difficult to get what you're looking for, for two reasons. First, it's because the XL H1 out of the box doesn't give you the "reality" look. Instead you get the "Canon" look. Lots of folks prefer the Canon look to the real-world look, that's why they keep buying Canon cameras over and over. There's something about the Digic processor and a type of color that Canon calls "memory color." For the folks who don't like it, fortunately you can dial in whatever color you want. The other reason is because outdoor light is constantly changing, from time to time and place to place. Where I'm at in Texas, we've just had some major rainfall (finally) and the daylight constantly cycles especially with all the different kinds of clouds the sunlight filters through. Just this evening toward sunset it was dark, then some clouds parted, it became bright, then dark as the clouds rolled in again, then bright when the sun reached the horizon under the cloud layer -- then the hues went all over the map, everything golden then orange then red -- then dark as the sun finally went down. All in the course of less than an hour. On a typical cloudless summer day in Central Texas the color temperature outdoors will remain consistent from 9am until 7pm, and I can come up with a preset for that if I tried long and hard enough, but I doubt it would match your lighting wherever you are. To me outdoor light is a dynamic and constantly changing thing, and even when it ain't, it's different from the sunlight you're getting over at your place. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 5th, 2006, 10:11 PM	#33
Bill Taka Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 82	Chris, I shoot all outdoors and I have tried everyone's preset, however I have yet to come up with a natural look. It seems the combination of exposure and natural light angle is effecting my presets. Have you come up with one that is giving you a wysiwyg look?

May 5th, 2006, 11:42 PM	#35
Bill Taka Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 82	Yes I agree with you Chris, that is exactly it, the "dynamic outdoor lighting" in fact I have concluded for color, it's best to adjust the presets sparingly and color grade in post as I have done in the past with my XL1/XL2. No doubt blacks and highlights are more useful for custom presets.